Scottish independence.

your welcome

 

In fairness , I think you could say the same for anyone living in a region which has been systematically exploited for it's raw materials, the spoils of which have been 'shared' amongst a small, remote minority...Lancashire springs to mind, Tyne and Wear, Cornwall, South Wales....it's a long list

 

As bad as the Tory's are, the last Labour government was far worse

 

without wishing to go off topic...do you maintain that there is any real difference between Tories, Labour, the Liberal Democrats et al? Historically, Yes, practically, No...
To secure votes, not one of these parties is prepared to stick their neck out and offer a genuine alternative to the status quo...

 

I'm only telling you how it is, it's not my opinion coz I don't personally give a Marmitee either way but Scotland has 41 labour mp's and the torys 1, take them away from the end count and the torys win every time, in essence England is a tory country and Scotland is a labour country

 

^^^THIS^^^
Meet the new boss.....same as the old boss....

 

It was Billy Connolly that said that the desire to be a politician should automatically bar you from being one. Wonder if he's had a chat to Mr Salmon?

 

and the more unstable the Union (North Sea oil revenue) appears, the more the incumbent government will bend over to satisfy demands for concessions...it's bribery politics....the real beneficiaries will be the Holyrood mandarins
The population of The West Midlands is just shy of 3 million; similar to Greater Manchester....each have their own culture, history and aspirations....neither have their own Parliament...Scotland should be satisfied that they have the wherewithal and legislature to pass their own Laws

 

Well, yes there is: the Lib Dems are still unelectable, although they do do a nice line in beards...

 

No, there is a difference - before the last election we all suspected the Lib Dems were unelectable - now we know they are.

 

This is the thing - I wonder how much all of this is just about Alistair Salmond's long-held ambition to be Prime Minister of Scotland????

 

*****, I knew I'd get his name wrong.

 

I'd challenge that, certainly in Wales there is the usual distrust in politicians.

You underestimate the nationalism of the populace....that's not a hatred for the English, more a desire to self rule and a direct say in the destiny of your own country, not dissimilar to the Cornish as the Celts genuinely see themselves as different.

People can mock all they want, it's not a statement of superiority, just recognition that our history didn't get edited by the Romans and then the Normans. Bare in mind the damage done through English rule to our heritage and you can see why people get precious (don't mind a joke on this one but if you want to attempt a serious observation on relevance of the language can you do some homework and find out why it's where it is).

My thought are having earnt a place at the table (and I mean by fighting along side each other, forging an empire together mining the coal that helped build the industrial revolution etc) I think most Welsh and Scottish can see that divided we fall and why should we simply ***** off the hardwork of out forefathers.

If people actually read what respective 'parliments' powers were and maybe imagined what being ruled by Westminster might be like and where you register on their scale of relevance there, maybe you can see the desire to have more powers.

Incidentally...prescription payments and university fees being free is what should be aimed for for all of us, as it was before the government decided to make higher education exclusive.

For the record I'm pro uk, and yes, am a bit *******ed off with the ignorance of some in here when making out the non English to be in effect beggars. I'd have a look at your own regions GDP if I were you, glass houses and all that.

 

Just realises the above again sounds more serious than my thoughts actually are, just trying to give a different perspective.

Ill add that the very saddest thing I think for the English is that you have no one period of history to which you can identify, therefore is hard to have a national identity.

Compound that by your parliaments desire to be chronically PC, and you get diluted year in year out. The Celts didn't cling to theirs, they fought for it and so should you I think.