Out of interest if you replaced the engine for a modern (scooby) for example could you apply for lower tax due to emmisions or is a scooby officially 'worse' than leaving it as is? does the tax band stay as pre march 2001 as the manu[glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300]FACT[/glow][/glow]ured vehicle therefore it doesn't matter? also anyone know the tax price for the 1.4 watercooled brazillians?
i should add it's nothing i'm thinking of doing just interested in, and i'm sure it could be done easy enough if someone wanted to, if scoobys and golf diesels fit then the polo engine is easy enough
Good piont, i know someone who has a scooby in there bus but cant ask them at the moment as i dont have facebook no more.
I remember being in a dvla office years ago and a guy can in wanting to change the size of the engine in a car he had just done a swap to. The dvla said he needed an engineers report from the garage saying it was smaller to be able to get the cheaper tax. This was 12 odd years ago though.
i'm guessing the emmisions on a scooby are high anyway so would probably be more than £220 anyway? but then again i guess many scooby engines that find their way into a bus are out of pre march 2001 cars anyway so the tax would be the same thinking about it......
The road tax you pay is dictated by the age of the vehicle, not the engine. A 2 litre scooby will be the same road tax as my 1776 aircooled. You will need an engineer's report anyway - for both the insurance and the DVLA, I think.
I have some experience of a few iterations on this. Regarding emissions - I had a 406 V6 Coupe converted to LPG a few years ago (ruined that car to be honest) and the flaming hoops I had to jump through to get them to consider changing the emmisions status wasn't worth it in the end (to be fair, they had no baseline on what a converted LPG engine could do emission wise and wouldn't go down the route of emission free) this is however over 10 years ago. Regarding the Subaru engine - I have that conversion and my insurance simply wanted to know to what capacity it had been changed to and the inherent worth of the vehicle as a result. For MOT as its pre 1975 (the Vehicle) then its a visual test only. Obviously the Subaru engine is later build than that but its also de-cated so not as clean as it would be in post 1992 car - I would imagine its more modern engine management system (dynamic fuel injection, electronic ignition etc) and better fuel efficiency leads me to suspect it throws a lot less unburnt fuel down the pipe than a typical aircooled engine. A bus is tested on its age, not the age of one of its components - however, as speculated I'd be surprised if the cost saving based on the Subaru tax band would be cheaper anyway. Finally - the DVLA - haven't got round to that bit, but then the bus was off the road pretty much since I had the conversion (fettling the roof, dodging the rain etc). As I go through those stages I'll happily share experiences. My understanding is the DVLA's interest on engine conversions is the credibility of the doner vehicle as much as anything else.
Hi all, we recently fitted a type 4 - 2ltr engine in to our bus - but it did have a type 1 - 1600 engine in it when we bought it............. ....there was a 6 rib gearbox so it should of had the 2ltr engine originally so as the chance arose to put it back as it should have been ..we did it. NOW...thought i was doing the right thing by filling out the V5 - putting the change of engine number and capacity down on the document and sending off to be updated..simple..surely...i mean..why would you tell them that you had changed it if you were trying to be dishonest.....? that was about 4-5 weeks ago...had a letter monday ..with a new v5 ..no...not updated just a new copy of the old one ..still listed as a 1600 engine....the letter then goes on to say that they need more evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!.....why would you tell them if you hadn't really done it.............they ask for a few different options of prove....1 was an receipt of the purchase of the engine....hello..the ehgine is 35 years old and was taken from an Oz imported bus...or....AA or Rac inspection /report and so on ...you get the picture ..... ...so it does make you wonder why they put up so many barriers ..when you are in fact trying to do the right thing......sorry guys ...rant over
I don't think it will make any difference of you fit a Subaru engine in because the vehicle is of a certain age. The only change surely will be if you fit a 1.4cc engine in of some description. As for Brazilian buses, that's a good question but they are taxed by emissions are they not??
