MOT Exemption and "substantially altered" vehicles

Discussion in 'Modified Shizzle' started by baygeekster, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Think the q plate only applies if youve got a heavily modded vehicle where the original is effectively a doner. Think if it has an identity already and you modify by increment it wouldnt really apply.

    We will see. Official clarity will be forthcoming nearer the time. Possibly the notifcation of mods will initiate a procedure. Cant see it being retrospective really but the scooby thing isnt a significant mod, just 1 point but it will, as described above, increase beyont the limits set so it would only reallybaffect the tax status ie not historic. You would have to wonder though as if to hether stricter MOTs might become a factor! That would be ironic given that theres probably not many basket cases with scoobies in. They are more likly to be the better buses that attract that level of investment from the owner.

    A feasible conversion within the rules which could feasibly have been done prior to 88 would be a 2.1 waterboxer. Or stick wome tinware on your scoobie lol!
  2. If that is an EJ20 then I've got the same
  3. From my interpretation of the published regs - ANY chassis modification such as Tubs, Notches, Beam Raises that sort of thing forces the Q reg as it wont have the requisite 5 points from an unmodified chassis
    Seems fairly clear and easy to understand just have no idea how it will be enforced
    davidoft likes this.
  4. its simple, if your bus is modified you will still need to get an MOT.

    If it is bone stock then once it is 40 years old then it wont NEED an MOT.

    for the sake of 45 quid a year it isnt that expensive and you'll find out if there is anything wrong.
  5. All Bonkers this!
    Why does a stock vehicle not do emission test
    at MoT ? Probably fail?
    And a Subaru engine in a Subaru vehicle does
    But a Subaru in a van doesn't either
    If any stock or otherwise had to do emission test and failed
    You could rebuild the Subaru and it could pass
    So a modified vehicle could pass
    And a stock one can't
    So then they would say the Subaru is not stock
    Neither could pass
    Perhaps there's a bigger plan to have us all off the road
    And be the owners of an expensive ornaments:thinking:
  6. ron


    because it wasn,t until 1975 that car manufacturers took emissions seriously even subarus pre 75 aren,t tested
  7. Interestingly (well, maybe only to me), if you have an engine swap done, then you have a choice regarding the regs for emissions. You can:

    Say nothing and the emissions rule applied relates to the age of the vehicle (in my case visual test because the van is pre-March 1975, which the Scooby I have deals with without problems); or

    Provide the tester with evidence proving the age of the engine, and then they will apply the emissions rule relating to the age of the engine (this would cause issues for me as the engine would be governed by post-92 emissions regs, and it would probably fail these as it has no catalytic converter anymore).

    It's in the MOT regs, if anyone is interested in looking it up. It works both ways too - you can stick an older engine in a newer car and as long as you can prove the age of the engine, they will test to the older regs (not that I can think of a reason to put an older engine in a newer car anyway).
  8. No, the 15% power-to-weight applies to MOTability, not VED (road tax) historic status.
  9. If it doesn't make 8 points on the DVLA system it should already be on a Q plate, many have got away with it for a long time though.
    Lasty and paradox like this.
  10. Pretty much everything with cars relies upon the owner self-reporting to DVLA and insurance unless caught out by the cops. There are probably quite a few cars that technically should be on a Q plate, but there is no desire to enforce the rules.

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