Thanks for that advice fellas , will see what happens shortly/next order , must say i so am envious you guys being "south" where the "scene" is obviously concentrated , when i lived there i so loved the entire place! would if could return tomorrow !to be clear , not just cos of camper scene , i love the south, all off it, >>>"south"?anywhere well, south of the Scottish border ! 8 months back here , seen 2 thats 2 bays , one on a street parked up ,apparently never is used, other blatted past a wk ago whilst i was in lay by, (flicking thru old copies off "south" shows i attended !)