I can see where wales went wrong

In the past watching England quite often balls it up, they've seemed over-coached and afraid to think for themselves/step outside the game plan. Last night's bunch perhaps didn't suffer so much from this, they seemed to be thinking on the hoof and consequently the action was more unpredictable and faster?

 

He was asked to come down the tunnel and he refused! As Moons said protocol dictates that visiting team come out first! If WALES where in the habit of keeping teams waiting then surely you would have this stand off and subsequent late kick off every game ??????

I think the mind games by Gatland pre game are equally childish and that the game should be decided on the field not off it!

 

A great game last night, a lot of Psychology with the Wales team delaying the walk out and coming out to a lightshow and fire works (Their Haka?) but that aside does anybody understand what all the penalties are for and how on earth do they see them, when in football a Ref and two linesman cannot see what 30 to 40,000 other people can plainly see!

 

I went to Ireland v England in Dublin a couple of years ago and you could get a little receiver ear piece which was tuned to the ref's mike. Makes it much easier to understand.

 

Certainly seemed to get the ball moving much quicker out of the breakdown which is always encouraging to see. Have read Clive Woodward and Matt Dawson already talking England up, which I'm a bit wary of. It's always good to get one over an historic rival like Wales, but we've had these false dawns before. Pride before a fall and all that. Let's hope we can keep the momentum up

 

My opinion

Wales gave nothing away regarding tactics, and played like a team protecting them. I don't agree that we have to back to the drawing board...people always say this when we don't win.

If anything, we can now experiment a little with selection in the remaining games...that's not me saying that there was any deliberate or premeditated losing, that was a game that we hugely wanted to win, and England came and won it fair and square.

I think Liam Williams should have replaced a concussed North, and why Tupric wasn't on is a mystery. Only major worry for me is the scrum as England had the upper hand pretty much throughout, and our kicking game which was poor.

The two England tries were both scored by top echelon bits of flair...not the usual England power...and credit to them for the invention.

Now, with a fit Farrell, Baritt and Tuilagi will they start (and you bring on flair) or do you go with Joseph and Ford etc. Wales didn't struggle midfield anyway last night and wouldn't have with the power players...so it's a concern for England as to who to pick I think (a nice conundrum).

The notion that we were outmuscled by England up front with their 3rd XV is ridiculous...I don't think a much lighter Lawes, Launchberry or Parling would have been significantly better than Kriuz or Attwood, both of whom have been on top form and I think that's England's best front and back rows anyway.

People forget that a 'mire'd with injury' England nearly scalped the All Blacks in Enzed last summer...they have huge strength in depth...largely down to a great academy set up....an Aviva premiership of 12 teams has been epic this year. Wales' 4 regions conversely have been poor to awful...I went to the Blues v Dragons match at Xmas and it was shockingly Marmite.

England I think have 3 or 4 players every position that can play international rugby, sometimes 5 or 6, we, have far far fewer and can't tap the South Sea Islands for the physical units as other smaller countries do.

England also have been in the finals of several u20 world cups of late, those guys are filtering through...and Wales have a few from last years one showing good club form so there's a positive for us.


Had we thrown the kitchen sink at England I'd be far more worried than I am now.

 

Wales delayed nothing.

The away team always walks out first in rugby. Always.

Invitation teams such as the Lions or sometimes games at neutral venues both teams come out at the same time, even then the away team comes out marginally before.

I hate the light show, but it's in every Club game and every international, not something Wales invented for the evening.

 

It did go on a bit last night thou, just a tad over the top, I agree with most everything else you said , I like the big powerful flowing attacking modern style of union, I can see a coming together of the codes one day

 

Coming together of codes......Not in a million years!!

 

Anyone got tickets for any world cup games btw?

Going as underdogs to the cabbage patch stadium full of blazers and corporate toffs isn't going to be that scary seeing as the governing bodies stiffed their own clubs with the ticket allocations...

 

England Union have been scalping league for a few years now....the scary bit in Enzed and Aus...if they get that talent pool...

 

I was looking at hospitality packages for the England Wales game - prices start at £1245 .....

 

Ftfy

 

No, my son had his hands on a pair for the All Blacks v (?) Samoa game at St James Park but that has fallen through . Will prob be armchair spectator.

 

That's kind of my point....my club has had no allocation, and I think no one else has.

It won't be the usual Twickenham crowd...

 

Getting one though...btw I think that's a boggo seat and a sandwich in some tent in the carpark...

 

I went to watch the semi-finals of the rugby league world cup at Wembley last year. Two games (Eng v NZ and Aus v Fiji), premium seats, cracking matches all for £90. For some reason Rugby League cannot get the international crowd atmosphere even though the code I just as good, if not, faster than Union.

 

I believe a car park was mentioned ....

 

Couldn't afford top games but going to Argentina Canada in Milton Keynes, also hoping to go to Wales Ireland warm up game August 8th. I think it is a real shame that a lot of the seats will be corporate and stadiums won't be filled with true rugby fans
Ortho consultant colleague was invited to do a talk at a conference in London, most of the speakers where international and one of the carrots to talk was two tickets to any World Cup game so my colleague took a punt and said final please and he got them Gratis!! I am happy he is going as he is fanatic but how many other douches will be there and won't even come out in the second half as they are to busy scoffing corp food and drink ???