looking for advice on where to get the hook up flap from preferably the metal older type and cable ,if not where to look for a newer one ,also need the split charge and fuse board , full kit to put split relay in really , Cheers all
I had the same problem. I didn't want to put a hole in the panel, so I attached a plug to the chassis. Got the plug off eBay for £5.99. It's worth getting a circuit breaker though, for safety.
I've just taken delivery of one of these kits.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/221683580235 Haven't fitted it yet but it all looks very well done. Made up to my exact needs - and with the online installation instructions should be simple enough to fit ( will be getting a qualified sparky to check it over before putting it live ).
If hes up to date and the kit is as per the advert you may have a shock. Current Requirements for 230 volt installs in motor caravans require double pole circuit breakers.
This keeps coming up and as I had the book to hand for a bit of light reading I will quote directly from it Bs 7671 17th iee wiring regs Special location 721 electrical installations in caravans and motor caravans Reg 721.43.1 Final circuits The final circuit should be protected by overcurrent protective device which disconnects all live conductors of the circuit. Same book Part 2 definitions Final circuit The circuit connected directly to current using equipment or to a socket outlet or socket outlets or outher outlet points for the connection of such equipment Live part The conductor or conduct of part intended to be energised in normal use including a neutral conductor
That's all well and good...... but how does the average Joe identify a double pole breaker from a single one ?
At the end of the day anyone can install electrics in there own property but if it goes pear shaped they have to prove they are competent. If you don't know what you're looking at how would you prove you were competent Technically the regs are guidance only but I wouldn't want to stand up in court and say that I knew better
I dont think its your problem. It should be an issue for the supplier really. Especially if they are supplying pre wired kits. Usually double pole breakers are two modules ie twice as wide, and have connections on them for the neutral conducters ie in and out, so four connections. They will probably have a diagram on showing two setsvof contacts or even the letters dp. This Is one
I'll be getting one of these DIY hook up install kits from JK. http://www.justkampers.com/mains-hook-up-kit-surface-mounted-240v.html I already have the mobile camping hook up thingy but want to put summat more permanent n neat looking in.
Exactly Dicky. Thank you. As for being competent @matty this is why as originally stated it will be signed off by a qualified sparky. Buying a prewired kit from a company with 4800+ positive feedback seemed like a reasonable punt. Having done some reading please correct me if I'm wrong all these double pole breakers do is remove the need to carry a polarity checker to inspect the supply on the site - and the need for a reversal loom if found to be reversed? Also from what I can see this is quite a recent change in the regs so there will be many many vehicles out there that are running the old style. This of course doesn't remove the fact I want to get it right to the current spec...
@Dubbdubb sorry for jacking your thread it would seem potentially though you may be finding out where not to get kit from faster than where to....
It's been in the regs for years I have thrown most of my old books the oldest I have is 1992 and its in that The risk of it being a problem in our vans is very low but being a electrician I can only go by the regs and I have only fitted ones that comply. Most places selling the kits are not electrical minding and go for the cheep easy option and leave it up to you to take all the risk on
Considering many of our busses are on their way to 50 years old that still recent and as said many many will be running about on the old regs. The confusing bit for me is why Rayne Automotive would sell the kit wrong...... it's not like they are knocking out cheap kits, if the double pole breakers are an extra £20-50 why wouldn't they just charge it I paid for several other upgrades. As I said I have copied James at Rayne into the thread as he seemed a nice chap on the phone and clearly has a thriving business that could do well on a forum like this.....
