Cooling

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Soggz, Sep 18, 2021.

  1. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Interesting Vid.
     
  2. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    He has the problem that he assumes every statement VW made about cooling with different parts is untrue, as they would get sued.. Typical paranoid Yank.

    In that he reckons that VW had to deny that the Type 3 head tins were better than Type 1 tins, or they would have been sued.
     
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  3. What a lot of tosh.
     
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  4. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I think he has good experience, but he is on Beetles with strange exhausts, no proper tinware. ..
     
  5. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Isn’t it possible that the type 3 tins ARE better than the normal type 1 tins, as they were an afterthought, or improvement?
    Is does make sense though with the full ‘around the barrel’ air flow, didn’t it?
     
  6. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Good lord, are you still going on about this? If it makes sense to you - fit them.
     
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  7. mikedjames

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    The whole air flow round a Type 3 engine is different.
    The fan is on the crankshaft, a different design to the T4 as well.
    A direct drive fan like on the T3 or T4 gives better cooling as the fan belt cannot slip, so the cooling increases with RPM unlike a T1 where the fanbelt slips more and more. Plus the fan is able to move more air anyway - 800 cubic feet per minute on a T4 (dunno for T3) vs 650 cubic feet per minute on a T1.

    And there are flow deflectors on a T1 engine between the barrels, and in the heads and pieces in front of and behind the barrels, so there is air being forced through the fins rather than past them. And then there are the sled tins and the heater boxes deflecting the cooling air further so it wraps round the cylinders and barrels.

    He has J tubes, wrong tin under the engine, maybe T3 tins are better then.. - but even he does say if you have it all stock T1 tinware and a stockish T1 engine it will be OK too..

    Here's another disruptive distraction - but quite expensive. https://lnengineering.com/type-4-store/dtm-cooling-systems.html

    But if all you do is setup your carburettor and mixture properly, fix the tinware that should be there and drive sensibly with maybe using a temperature gauge as a warning, you shouldnt have trouble.
     
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  8. No. Fit what VW fitted (and kept fitting for years).
     
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  9. Amazing these things were and are still driven around in Africa Arizona México and any other belting hot places on Earth
    Don’t worry Soggzy it ain’t going to overheat in Somerset nipper… even if it has been a good summer :)
     
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  10. Lack of ommon sense seems a constant theme @Soggs - another none event ...

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  11. Soggz

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    Tbf, I think his engine is modified somewhat.
     
  12. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    No. Views from different angles.
    A thousand people, can have a thousand opinions.:thumbsup:
     
  13. Fan shroud velocity rings :)
     
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  14. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Yeah,
    Seen that..
     
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  15. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    All car companies, ‘improve’ things, as time goes on, don’t they? That’s the whole point, ain’t it.
    :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Do you have a leaf blower soggzy?
     
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  17. Exception being diesel engines which have been optimised to the point of oblivion and beyond - scraping cars as new injectors are just too horrendously expensive to replace.
     
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  18. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Like VW not so long ago with their emissions…etc?
     
  19. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    I’ve seen electric fans fitted on the rear of fan housings.
    Or could a leaf blower be converted into a crude turbo?
    Saying that, my mate Andy did fit a turbo to his bay, for a laugh….
     
  20. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I think the leaf blower supercharger has the wrong fan design so it uses more power than it gains
     
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