Calling all later auto box owners

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Betty the Bay, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. Betty the Bay

    Betty the Bay Supporter

    My late auto box has a rather Heath Robinson connection arrangement using bits off an old push bike!
    I saw on Brickwerks site that they have a replacement lever for the gearbox end, and I can now see how a cable should "pop " on, with adjustments being made at the throttle end......so.... has anyone got or is able to take a picture of the throttle end connection.
    Cheers.
     
  2. There's a pic of the throttle end adjustment on p7 in the 010 troubleshooting guide I sent to the jim mcglynn thread this morning, though it doesn't seem to be off a T2. The trans was used on a number of different cars. There should be a solid rod with complex bends connecting gearbox and carbs - have you got that?
     
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  3. Betty the Bay

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    Engine to gearbox is original.....I presently have the S shape end of throttle cable at accelerator end and adjust with a bike brake cable adjuster at the gearbox end....seems gearbox end should be fixed ( makes sense ) with adjustments being made at the accelerator end....just no idea what fitting/connection it is.
    Will look at the trouble shooting guide...only read the bit about gear change speeds etc.
    Cheers.
     
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    Here's a couple of pics showing back and front end of the rod from gear box to carbs. The second one's a bit fuzzy and the brake hose is obscuring the cable connection from up front. It just pops on. The solid rod is a bolt on slack fit.

    You can get the cable new - I damaged the original by not disconnecting it when I took the engine out.
     
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  5. Betty the Bay

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    Cheers.....but it's the pedal end that has me stumped......in Haynes it shows a round Nuclear sign, which is no help at all!!
     
  6. Aha I see what you’re getting at. Haynes has a load of these symbols in the drawings which mean that it’s a swivel point. For example, the rod has an eye on the end which attaches slackly to the lever on the box by means of a nut and bolt. If you look at the microfiche drawings on Ratwell this shows it better. http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Microfiche/t206100.gif, http://www.ratwell.com/technical/Microfiche/t206200.gif

    The pedal end on mine is the one shown on the bottom right of the various alternatives. It doesn't have the S type connection but a straight clamped rod.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  7. part no 211723555 at VW Heritage - has a pic of the cable.
     
  8. Betty the Bay

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    Thanks for the response.
    However.....it raises a question which probably was what I meant at the start of the post.........how does the thick rigid end of the cable fasten and adjust at the accelerator pedal end ......is the problem due to me having a rhd?
     
  9. I wonder if your auto is a later addition then and you're connecting up to a pedal which originally served a manual set up? Looking at the fiches, there doesn't seem to be a different version for rhd with an auto.
     
  10. Betty the Bay

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    Always been an auto....although had the later box at some point.
    My query is, the auto box accelerator cable as supplied by all the usual suspects has a pop on at the gearbox and a thick str aight connection....a bit like a heater cable ........at the pedal end...somehow this connects to and adjusts at the pedal mechanism, presumably by something that can rotate with the pedal movement....I wonder if it's a connection similar to the heater pods ?
     
  11. Betty the Bay

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    Do we think that the description of this part as heater cable / accelerator cable could be a clue ?[​IMG]

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  12. Betty the Bay

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    Meant to say heater / accelerator cable clamp !
    These are the 2 parts that need to join .[​IMG][​IMG]

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  13. That might be the clue. If it was an early auto, that operated off engine vacuum, so I suspect the accelerator cable set up would have been the same as on a manual, running all the way from pedal to carbs. I don't know this for sure, just guessing, but somebody on here must have one.

    As to the part showing, you might be able to modify it but the stub at the bottom would have to revolve somehow. It's probably intended just to join two parts of cable together, so you could continue with your S ending. I'll try and get a photo when I get my belly pan off.
     
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  14. Betty the Bay

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    Well done that man.....the change of box causing the problem never occurred!
    That said the later pedal arrangement must be able to grip / adjust the cable at the pedal end.

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    OK here's a couple of shots either side of the cable end under the pedal. The cable is secured by a pin like the one you've shown. It's just a push fit through the bracket and turns freely. The bolt only secures the cable end to the pin and the cable prevents it coming out.

    The bracket to which the cable is attached swiwels on the box section bracket - the one in original paint. It then attaches to a rod coming down from the pedal. This is better explained in the fiche. You need something resembling part 1a I think.

    Hope you work it out.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018
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  16. PIE

    PIE

    Your correct, the only difference to the manual on an 003 is the electric kick down under the pedal.
     
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  17. Betty the Bay

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  18. Betty the Bay

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    That's exactly what I wanted to see.....It's confirmed my suspicions.....thanks for the photos & perseverance with me.
    Winter job, cos existing arrangement is working fine....but adjusting the cable at the gearbox end if it were to break would by a nightmare!
     
  19. Betty the Bay

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    Thanked @PIE in error....message meant for you @andyv .....but grateful thanks to everyone who tried to help !
    Out of curiosity, what year is yours @andyv?
     
  20. Mine is a 79.
     
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