Bosch l jetronic crankcase pressure

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Pumpkin jack, May 8, 2020.

  1. i finally got the Bosch fuel injection running. It still needs dialling in to get it just right. Overall performance has increased across the board from economy to acceleration. My main worry now is crankcase pressure, it's a lot higher than when it had carbs. I've managed to stop oil escaping through dipstick and oil filler tubes by plugging and sealing but am concerned crankcase pressure may be too high. I did fit an inline PCV valve although the hose id is smaller than original hose, so maybe increases pressure?
    Do I need a different valve or can it be vented, or am I worrying too much
    Any help appreciated
     
  2. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    If you restirct crank case breathing to smaller than stock, expect pressure build up.
     
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  3. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

  4. image.jpeg One of these type things...positive crankcase ventilation valve
    Think basically it closes up if engine backfires to stop fumes igniting in the case?

    I do have a different type. It looks more like a filler cap, it might allow more flow. It just means I have to change vacuum hoses to fit it.
     
  5. What’s happened to your standard breather?
     
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  6. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Just looked at Majors L Jetronic and the breather box has a 1" diameter hose venting to the single lower most port on the S boot:

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  7. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I think @davidoft is pointing out the ATM machine in the room., and the stack of DVD discs in the corner. And the computer running TCP/IP protocol.
     
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  8. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    A T1 engine has option A: a 20mm ID hose with a stock breather , and option B: a 5mm ID hose with an EMPI shineeeey oil filler. .

    Option B has the crank case venting round the crank pulley.
     
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  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    PRV pressure regulating valve.
    FI only?
    What is it's purpose?
    Not that I'd want one...
     
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    Breather is from a carb set up. I assumed ii needed the valve for the FI

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  11. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    @Pumpkin jack

    have you got any more images of your setup, so we can help you out more.

    Try and get some of the S boot and the breather hose.

    sounds like you are almost sorted, I think you need the breather same as the image I posted.

    this thread, eventually, details the differences in breather boxes and describes the one you should have as part of the FI (L Jetronic in this case) and what previous variants use.

    https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=251133&highlight=type breather boxes
     
  12. Just found this on samba site
    https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5799711
    I had already bought one of these, which is a budget version
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    I'll just have to reroute the vacuum hoses...again!
    I'll post some pics later
     
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  13. Not sure anyone can make sense of these but I'll post them anyway! image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Looking down on the plenum
     

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  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    That's an impressive rats's nest of wires and pipes. :thumbsup:
    Snotty will have to go for a nice long walk outside if he sees that.
     
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  15. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    This is what our set up, as far as I know, original, excusing the labels as I’m taking the motor out.

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  16. Great photos.
    I can see a couple of differences. I didn't fit the carbon canister. (Wasn't sure where to connect lower r/side hose) I also had to bypass the air filter with the dizzy vacuum line as I was loosing the vacuum through the filter before it got to the dizzy.
    (Could be related to not connecting the canister??)
    Also accelerator cable comes through in a different spot from a previous carb setup.
    I also blanked off the egr valve as you have done.
     
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  17. Thanks, that's the look I was going for.
    It's to take your eyes away from the chipped paint on the fan shroud :)
     
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  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I particularly like the wire that disappears into the heater ducting in the foreground of the first picture. :)
    That same picture would make a good jigsaw puzzle.
     
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  19. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    I can’t imagine the carbon canister making a huge impact, that said, how much air passes through from the fan housing? The only other hose is from the vapour line from the fuel tank.

    if it’s running great, performance wise, I think you’ve pretty much got it sorted.

    Does the crankcase breather from carb’d motors lead to more back pressure, perhaps the mushroom vent cap releases it.
     
  20. I really would tidy up/sheath all that stuff going to the coil +ve. It's not fused, and if it chafes...
     

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