Ball Joint Boots

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by BarryDean, Feb 24, 2024.

  1. Adjust a little at a time rolling van back and forward, check again - so your not fighting the tire.
     
  2. So in normal driving conditions these single style will be fine? The extreme angles are when you have it in the air/jacked.
    If I'd have known early would have used the double but these should do the trick, others were rotten.
     
  3. Dunno! I tried them out on my bare suspension arms, and moving the ball joints fully fore-and-aft pulled them off. Doesn't happen with the double concertina ones, as they've got more flex.
     
  4. 20240226_074420.jpg I use these to carefully get the clips on .
     
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  5. Snotty you were right 100% massive difference between these two types, have changed them all now so cheers for that, they good to go for a while now.
    I can get the fixing rings on now easy done it that many times.
     

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  6. They're the ones :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Youtube video

    Thoughts?
     
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  8. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Yes, a box with numbers attached to an accelerometer..

    Every modern smartphone has a 3 axis accelerometer.
    That does the same as that box.


    On Android at least the app is free.

    Also useful for levelling the bus for camping.
     
  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    You mean inclinometer?
    The guy in the video goes to a lot of trouble to accurately set his camber to plumb vertical which is wrong. You'd think he'd have looked up the spec first!
    Jacking the van to make it level? Why didn't he just zero the inclinometer?
    And you're lucky if you have ball joints with a hex key AND when you crack the joint the camber nut is where it cracks. Most people turn the nut with a thin spanner.

    What he does is basically what I do with a similar inclinometer otherwise.
    Start off with the notch facing forwards - this is to maintain the caster angle.
    Have the joint only just loose enough to turn the camber nut.
     
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  10. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Actually the device is an accelerometer. The acceleration due to gravity appears as a 3 D vector in the XYZ axis readout, convert that to polar angles in the app and its an inclinometer measuring the direction of " down"
    relative to the phone body.



    Take the peak magnitude and it measures how hard you are smacking your mate round the head with the phone.


    As accelerometer...
    Screenshot_20240301_164742_Sensors Multitool.jpg

    Same sensor presented through "Multiclinometer" inclinometer app...

    Me trying to hold phone upright and press screen shot at the same time..

    Screenshot_20240301_165008_MultiClinometer.jpg

    Nice spanner..
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25476101...QOYZ9GYR8i&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
     
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  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Same sensor maybe but an accelerometer measures change in velocity against time. It's the wrong term for a device used for the measurement of stationary relative angles.
     
  12. Gunna leave this to garage have a couple of local options who has said they can do it, out of interest I checked my newly installed discs and both reading 89' deg with an angle meter app so the both same so should be able to drive in a straight line to the garage. :burp:
    It's weekend lets see I can break this time, just lost the wire for horn so can that to sort tomorrow and refurbishing the louver windows, weather looking OK Sunday for brake test session.
     
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  13. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I hope the garage knows more than you what they are meant to do, you might be wasting money.
     
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  14. Hands free phone holder complete with magnets - too much spare time.

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  15. Its a pal of mine, he has the technology and I have the setting's, even has the thin spanner, so will be interesting to see the results.
    I did try some adjustment today just too see and you certainly do not need to turn much for the angle to change, not even looked at the rear as yet.
     
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  16. Did you manage to free the camber adjusters off? That's usually the main problem.
     
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  17. Yes, I used a ball joint splitter with a little heat, then had to do it all again when you highlighted the double concertina boots but well worth the effort, the others are Marmitee.
     
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  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Did you know that the "bearing" in the ball joints is plastic?
     
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  19. So the Stanford hall meeting 5th May do people go to Victoria farm the Fri/Sat I remember last year meeting people at Stanford and they mentioned a farm?
     
  20. It was a touch of heat direct onto the adjuster.
     
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