what would you do with this lol

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by kevin smith, Apr 12, 2020.

  1. Happy Easter all and i hope everybody is safe and well in the current situation

    i was given the pictured engine, it turns over with a big bar

    my question is how would a very inexperienced "mechanic" approach this

    any advice / guidance / comments welcome

    Cheers and have a good day
     

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  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Same as an experienced one. Stop forcing it round and take it apart until you find the problem(s).
     
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  3. thanks
     
  4. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Watch youtube videos like mustie1 who does a lot of recovering old VW engines.

    But you dont know if it siezed from overheat or has a piston rusted to the cylinder and its full of water.

    Hint. Look at the order of what comes out of the sump..


    Black plus metal bits - smashed bits inside.
    Clear, then blobs then black - water in the sump. If its deep enough the aluminium cam shaft gear can dissolve and lead to valve timing collapse after a turn or so..


    Generally though its engine on stand , oil down plug holes and wiggle the crank without using a lot of force . It might break free from a rusty spot on one cylinder then turn freely.

    Leave the distributor in while turning over the engine or remove the distributor drive shaft.

    But in all cases before you can trust it you are going to have to take cylinders off at least to look inside.


    My £51 engine I bought complete with an inch of water still inside wouldnt turn over and I had to smash the cylinders off to get in. I was buying new pistons and cylinders as a matter of course. I managed to recover case, flywheel , crank, pushrods and conrods from it. Just about everything else needed replacements . It cost £600 in new parts ..

    The engine I had before had loose bearing dowel pins as well as oval flywheel dowels so it was dead too.
     
  5. As mentioned above , drop the oil , remove ancillaries , off with the heads and barrels - assess from there - an hour or so ...
    Depends on your plans as to how far you take the rebuild . It may not even be a 1600 as it has single port heads , more commonly used on 1200-1500 beetle engines .
    What's the engine code ?

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  6. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    The OP stated it turns over with a big bar.

    I thought that’s about right with plugs in.

    Why are we replying what to do if seized, or am I misreading this?
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Big bar sounds extreme for compression. I have 168psi all round and can turn it with a spanner.
     
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  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Ah ok, I assumed all engines needed a big bar but will happily be corrected!
     
  9. Gents

    All comments gratefully recieved and give me something to go on when i fanlly get home from work and into my self isolation in my work shop
     
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  10. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

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  11. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    Well they do on truck engines .:thumbsup:
     
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  12. Thanks Mork i will buy that today cheers
     
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  13. thats it bought:thumbsup:
     
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  14. I don't have the code handy but it is a 1600 single port i looked at the code before i got it

    i am really looking forward to having a go at rebuilding an engine and hopefully at the end of the process i will have a spare engine sitting along side the gearboxes lol

    Enjoying getting to know the engine and the workings as i feel it is right to undersand the T2 as much as i can
     
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  15. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    You'll not regret it Kevin.

    What I will say is (and I found it useful) to have a notebook handy and measure parts up, record what you have measured and compare to the specs listed in the Wilson book. This will give you an idea of wear etc and if you are not sure, post up and ask for opinions.

    You will enjoy it, that's for sure but remember, if the motor is going to be one you plan to run in future, cleanliness is an essential.
     

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