Talk to me about front shocks

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by lhu1281, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. what are my options regards new front shocks ... Full weight westy ,lowered 3inchs still with bump stops

    Not really wanting cheapy or mega expensive

    Options and best place to buy please
     
  2. theBusmonkey

    theBusmonkey Sponsor

    I've used KYB for nearly 10 years now on a fully loaded Westy & have found them excellent. Mid range for cost & proven long life.
    Machine 7 have a good guide here on shock selection
     
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  3. We have a lovely pair of Spax adjustables on the front of ours- I like them because they are yellow.
     
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  4. Rez

    Rez

    This was the setup when I replaced a few bits underneath after lowering the front by about 3-4 inches

    KYB Excel-G shocks on the front, BOGE (something) on the rear and I replaced the steering damper while I was at it.

    Very happy with how it feels on the road

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  5. Ditto very heavy westy (wife packs for weeks) and it's also my daily driver normal empty westy.
    Kyb gas o mat/excel g (same thing) all round absolutely transformed the experience


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  6. Any idea which size model number for the KYBs ?
     
  7. I have SPAX adjustable fitted to my weedeater beam from creative engineering
    They do different sizes to fit correct ride height applications
    Ride is fine when van fully loaded or not :)
     
  8. standard shock is 260 -410 extended . this worked fine on 3" lowering
    what would be better ? 245 -355 spax or 260-380 spax ? or should I stick to stock size
     
  9. I would of said the 260-380 however
    The advice given to me was
    Sit the van level allow For interior etc
    Measure distance between mounts
    Give supplier (Creative Engineering) The measurements
    A they supplied the correct ones
    I tried stock length ones and they were awful with my weedeater beam set up

    Be careful they won't take them back after you have fitted them
     
  10. only slightly cheaper than spax and oil filled ???? is oil better than gas or not ? trouble is I don`t really know what I want size wise
     
  11. Gingerbus

    Gingerbus Supporter

    Measure the eye-eye at rest, then measure the distance between the bump stops and allow extra for compression when they come together.
    Subtract this from your resting eye-eye to give you an idea of minimum length of shock. This should ensure that the bump stops bottom out before the shock, as most standard shocks don't have a bump stop built in and a shock bottoming out without bump stops wouldn't be good at all.
    The max length just needs to give 'upward' travel at least 1/3 of the free 'downward' travel (the resting bump-bump measurement without the extra bit for compression).
    In other words if your rest height is *300mm and your bumps meet at 250 then your min length should be leas than 240 and max length at least 325. *Figures just for example.
    I'd suggest slightly stiffer than stock as you have less travel for the same amount of spring support. I've heard that the KYBs suggested are a little stiffer.
    If you didn't have the bumps still in place it's a different story.
    It's also really worth checking the bump-bump distance before buying shocks because if it's too small, like less than around 3", which is not a lot of travel, and you're hitting or riding on the stops at times, then it'll compromise the effectiveness of any shock you fit and you might not see any improvement.


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  12. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    Is it lowered on drop spindles or adjusters or drop spindles and a small drop on adjusters?
     
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  13. I had drop spidles by about 2 1/2 inches and used standard KYB GR2 shocks(silver). they were fine and slightly softer than the rear ones i put on which were(and still are) the KYB gas -a-just (white) which are better for the weight of the westy interior.

    so KYB GR2 up front, Gas a just on the back. unless you want the absolute best (and expensive) then go for Koni's all round
     
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  14. No drop spindles . Just beam adjusters
     
  15. nicktuft

    nicktuft Supporter

    Bought these over twenty years ago.
    Still on the bus and working a treat..
    Did a half turn for the front and one and a half for the rear. Pricey maybe but you do pay for what you get.
    French country RN's are fairly effortless apart from tractors.
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  16. nicktuft

    nicktuft Supporter

    Standard height settings as the van is generally fully loaded. It's not a fancy job!!
     

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