half shaft assembly

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Diddymen, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. morning all,

    half shaft assembly, seems simple? insert half shaf through bearings in hub and tighten hub nut

    ....but how can I check if it is assembled correctly?

    my problem is this, I've put new bearings in (20ton press was no match for the outer bearing in the end :D) and new oil seals. I've then put the half shaft in and put the 2 halfs back together and tightened the nut......but I'm not sure the 2 halfs are fully together.

    when I put the 2 halfs together out of the hub, and put the nut on, there was a lot more thread sticking out the top of the nut than when I assembled it inserted into the bearings if you follow me......and I'm sure the new hub nut is half the thickness of the old one.

    I can see the holes for the split pins and there is thread sticking out the top of the nut

    so I'm guessing that the bearings are keeping the 2 halfs where they are? and they wouldnt go any tighter because of the bearings? ....so possibly correct?

    there is no play to suggest they are not together ...so does this sound ok? the shaft rotates in the bearing fine, not too loose, not too tight.

    could some one measure the distance between the neck of the outer part of the half shart (where the bearing butts up to, to the end of the thread so I can check (not up the garage for a few days to check myself)

    thanks :)
     
  2. Did you fit the spacers between the bearings?
     
  3. only one spacer fitted to mine (basically a long coller), yes I fitted it before the outer bearing went in

    the inner bearing went into the correct pace and was held in with the circlip, the outer I pressed in level with the 'neck' of the housing - which left about a 1-2mm gap between the top of the spacer and the bottom of the roller bearings them selves (not the outer race), the inner race then went in and sat ontop of the spacer

    so Im guessing that the spacer will be touching the inner bearing's inner race and the outer bearings's inner race ....so it cant go in any further ....unless the half shaft isnt fully inserted from either side?

    I'm starting to think it is correct, but with out measuring against another hub I wont really know if its inserted all the way ....once the wheel is back on I can torque it up fully which should confirm its not going any where?
     
  4. Most odd. My outers, when I changed them, were one piece. The spacer does ensure they're properly spaced (surprise).

    I've just been outside and measured mine, which are fitted/torqued up ok. I've got about 23mm of thread exposed, measured from the flat face of the hub to the end of the halfshaft. There's plenty of room on there for old-style thick nuts.
     
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  5. hmmm, thanks snotty, sounds like mine isnt too far off then

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    hopefully from the pic you can see where I measured ....I made mine 20mm, but its not torqued up yet

    just thought if I was using an original nut the castelations might have been proud of the thread
     
  6. I measured in the same place, and got 23-24mm. I've got full-sized nuts (big boy), and there's about 3mm of thread exposed when all torqued up properly.

    Have a check when you're all bolted up - looks ok to me.
     
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  8. Must admit the two-part bearing does seem odd. I'm not sure how that'd work taking up slack onto the spacer.

    I had trouble fitting my outers (one-piece) - I was convinced they were oversized. After a good smack with a bearing driver/lump hammer, they located and went in properly.
     
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  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Also the last I fitted didn't have the inward facing flange to knock them back out with, combined with having rammed it in with 20 tons it's going to be fun next time they need changing.
     
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  10. thanks guys :) my mind has been set at rest :)

    I put my bearing in the right place looking at yours :)

    the 2 part outer bearing was exactly the same as the one I had removed (which looked original) it was the second one I had bought as I thought the first one was made incorrectly over sized (also a 2 part one) ...and both were exactly the same size and of 2 piece construction (from different suppliers)

    not sure if crossovers had different bearings to true late bays?

    I used a 20 ton press as that was the smallest they had at work :D
     
  11. [​IMG]

    the bearing like any other has a cage to keep the rollers /balls apart ...these were vw heritage genuine vw ones and were not seperable
     

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