Electrics - More precise wiring looms!

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by drewster, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. Hi All, just after a bit of advise / knowledge before i take on this task. So my loom has been butchered somewhat over its life and looks a right mess. so thought now is the time to change it now id say im ok with wiring diagrams and things, i have had a bit of experience with cables :) wires etc. So question is firstly is there anywhere to still get the plugs ie the indicator stalk etc or is it a case of getting rid or swapping. Also does anyone know of anywhere I can get all the original color cable? And as always any general advise anything i should look out for.

    Thanks Kind people :)
     
  2. matty

    matty Supporter

    Vehicle wire ing products for the cable and some of the plugs but most of the plugs you will have to use the old plastic bits
     
  3. you can get most or the original colour cabling .....only one you wont find (unless you want to have 2Km of it made .....I did look into it :D) ...is the 3 colour cable for the hazzard light switch

    some of the others such as 4 or 6mm red with green trace, are only available in 50 or 100mr rolls ....but it depends on how original you want to go...or just use a single coulour available by the meter

    as Matty said....if they are in good order try to clean up and retain some of the original connectors, I did as the new ones didnt have the VW logo on them :D

    Thin wall cabling is also rated higher for current compared to the same size PVC cable
     
  4. You're unlikely to need to change the whole loom if it's just been butchered in the usual fashion. You'd never get the connectors that fit on things like the stalk switches.

    As above, have a look at Vehicle Wiring Products. They have 70s-style thick-wall PVC cables in most of the colours. You can join hacked cables with crimped barrel connectors and clean up the rest by crimping on nice new brass crimps (also from VWP). Cut the cables back a bit before crimping, so you're using an uncorroded bit of cable.
     
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  5. ^^WHS Much more satisfying to repair it yourself and learn what's going on (which is what you said you want to do). Unless you've had a fire, 90% of your wiring will be fine. Get some new sleeving whilst you're at it. As to the connectors, you can use those insulated ones with coloured ends - the red ones are most useful but blue ones are also OK and take slightly heavier cable. But get good rachet crimps which will be around £20, not the flimsy £3 ones or you'll find some of the joints will pull off. Better still though more fiddly to fit are the original style brass connectors - I've started to use these whenever I add new wiring and they look much better.
     
  6. Yep, forgot...buy some PVC sleeving! If you're using brass crimps, get a crimper with w-shaped jaws. I use a cheapy one, and the crimps are excellent.

    VWP slso sell multiway connectors, which are great if you're adding stuff...you csn just unplug it!

    Personally, I hate the coloured crimps... No strain relief on the cable.
     
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  7. Not sure about the strain relief bit Snotty, but that's why you need good crimps. In one action it crimps the naked wire and also the plastic bit to the insulated part of the cable. With cheap ones the plastic bit is splayed out and doesn't grip well. They use the same type of connectors for high voltage applications in industry so they must be OK.
     
  8. Take your point. Prob is that most folk don't use proper ratchet crimpers as they're so expensive!
     

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