Update..... So removed shocks to measure up But when i dropped the jack and got underneath i realised what all the teeth shattering and banging was, the problem was what @zedders had mentioned to me, the beam side plate was actually sitting on the bottom shock mount, that much it had bent the mounting pin down slightly. So the bus was sitting to low for the arms i raised the beam slightly then measured up but there was only 20mm difference between the shocks that CE recommended and the Kyb's i already had. So i stuck mine back on whent for a spin down some bumpy roads and all was fine i even got thumbs up approval from the wife. And saved myself £180 Cheers Z Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk