..cc heads..

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  1. areksilverfish

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    Hi
    Got a question guys..Ive just rechecked the cc on my 2 litre heads and they seem to be 53-54?..hmm thought they should be closer to 50cc?..could it be correct or am I doing something wrong..

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    Arek


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  2. Are they AMC heads with the lip? Are you measuring including the lip if so?
     
  3. areksilverfish

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    They OG ones so no lip..they have not been machined either..


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  4. 77 Westy

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    VW 2.0l heads are usually around 50cc, 1800 56/57cc. Are you sure you have 2.0l heads?
     
  5. areksilverfish

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    Yes I only have cleaned them up this morning so all that carbon buildups gone now..filled them up with oil not white spirit like before and yeah give me roughly 53-54 +\- 1..will recheck that tomorrow tho coz 3,4 cc makes alot of difference doesnt it..if I add 1mm shims it will give me then 7.2 cr and I wont b happy with it tbh..if they close to 50cc tho then I will get cr of 7.5 and this sounds better to me..


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  6. mikedjames

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    CR 7.2 is closer to VW's intention of up to 6.9 to live with junk American fuel..
     
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  7. areksilverfish

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    ..what minimum deck height I can go in your opinion on stock cj?..some people say min 1mm other 1.3-1.6 max..Im confused really on this subject..think I ran 7.2 before and it seemed low (2mm DH) but years before around 7.5 with 1.3 DH and it felt better..a bit of guessing on this one tho’..


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  8. 77 Westy

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    1mm minimum deck, unless you’re brave, 1.6mm maximum for a decent squish.
     
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  9. areksilverfish

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    Thats what I thought..thing is if it was a beetle I would go for 1mm and higher cr but for the bus hmm..got to make decision quick and carry on with the build..


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  10. 77 Westy

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    With 54cc combustion chambers - 1.0mm deck = 9.0:1 CR, 1.6mm deck = 8.6:1 CR. That's with flat top pistons.
     
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  11. Piston dish can make a fair bit of difference too[​IMG]

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  12. areksilverfish

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    ..indeed..mine are deep dished 15cc..


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  13. areksilverfish

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    ..I just need to add 15cc as my pistons are deep dished..


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  14. ....[​IMG]

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  15. areksilverfish

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    ..using cb performance calc with 1.4 deck and 65ccs gives me 7.6 cr (0.4mm deck with no shims).. if I add lets say 0.75 shims it would be 1.15 deck and 65ccs then I get 7.8 cr..now if Im correct with my head cc measurement then with 1.4 deck and 69ccs I get 7.3 cr and at 1.15 deck 69cc 7.4 cr so it looks like those few cc’s on my heads dont do that much difference? Am I correct on this? It matters tho which size of shims I will go for as with 1mm Im around 7.6-7.8 wich is on rather high side but still accetable?..or 0.75 then around 7.3-7.4 cr rather stock..appologies if its kinda unclear but am I correct in my calculations?


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  16. areksilverfish

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    Thankslooks like Im quite correct then with my calculations..


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  17. 77 Westy

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    Keep the deck to 1mm; that's only 7.5:1 CR.
     
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  18. 77 Westy

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    If you have 0.4mm deck with no shims you need a 0.6mm shim to get a 1mm deck. 1mm deck and 69cc head plus piston combustion chamber volume = 7.5:1 CR. That’s fine for a bus engine with a standard cam.
     
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  19. areksilverfish

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    ..cheers guyswill keep it close to 1mm then


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