Another one for the builders.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zed, Jul 8, 2023.

  1. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I'll be needing to screw quite a lot of battens to some 4-5mm thick steel, a job I'm not looking forward to. I'd guess a couple of hundred fixings :(

    General attack seems to be those screws that drill their own hole. I've used them on thin aluminium years ago but this is a whole other level.

    It worries me that they won't get through such a thickness without blunting.

    I'll be hiring a suitable mains powered drill. I may even hire a body so there's two of us pushing on the damn thing.

    Cost I don't care - ease I do. I'm a skinny old git, it's going to kill me if I can even do it.


    Advices please O wise ones. :)
     
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  2. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    You can buy heavy duty ones or pre-drill 1st.
     
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  3. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    Or hire a hilti gun :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I've used Hilti hammer drills 30 years ago but I'm out of the loop now. How would a hilti drill help as opposed to any other beefy drill?
     
  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I think you're just up the road from me? Wanna job?
    It won't be for 2-3-4 weeks time and there will be round 2 later when I do the next (smaller) room. :)
     
  6. Meltman

    Meltman Sprout Lover

    I would pre drill the holes first or hire a Hilti nail gun.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Into 4-5mm steel? You have my attention.
     
  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Looks rather dangerous to me. lol, I think I'd need to hire an experienced pro for this, which I'm happy to do.
     
  9. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    They will drill through no problem at all, they go through proper girders when new building are put up, you’ll be amazed at how good they are, don’t cheap out , get the good uns
     
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  10. Betty the Bay

    Betty the Bay Supporter

    Back in the 80’s, my builder had a nail gun that he used to nail wood to an rsj.
    Surely such things must still exist.
     
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  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    No cheaping out intended here, it's a *cough* job as it is.
    I'm preferring the screws to nails TBH so If I mess up positioning at least I'd be able to get them out without destroying the batten.
     
  12. Much quicker, but Hilti gun is not a drill, its a gun !
    It fires a cartridge stud into the steel, but fixing to old/corroded steelwork you will create showers of rust flakes and potentially fractures in anything brittle.

    Used one on a steelworks blast furnace, then realised that the steel gantry we were fixing to was falling to bits below us, every time we fired the gun.
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Excellent point. The panelling would probably fall off the rest of the boat!
     
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  14. And firing one in the echo chamber of a narrow boat would deafen the entire marina......probably finish off the post-mistress........
     
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  15. Meltman

    Meltman Sprout Lover

    Like yourself, I didn't think that the screws that drill themselves in would go through 4-5 mm steel. Looks like I was wrong.
     
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  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Happily wrong in this case. :thumbsup:
    Getting enough pressure on it will be tricky I expect.
     
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  17. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Spot weld studs to it ?
     
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  18. They are straight forward to use as I recall, modest pressure to hold down the firing frame on the front, that's the safety bit to stop labourers killing everyone on site. The recoil is negligible, no worse than the effort needed to use a Hilti drill.

    But they were literally guns.
     
  19. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Sorry, I was referring to TEK screws, as we pros call them. ;)
    There are too many reasons not to nail it it's a non-starter.
     
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  20. Have you looked into using a dry lining frame system, fixed top and bottom rails, then uprights slotted in rather than multiple drilling?
     

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