Adjustable shocks help

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  1. That's low...mine sitting is 365mm

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  2. Gingerbus

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    Yours has dropped spindles? I think your eye-eye length will be different. Mine are stock.
    A better gauge of how far it's dropped is to compare wheel centre or ground level to arch height.

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  3. I'll have to look tonight

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  4. So you have a dropped beam I take it

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  5. Gingerbus

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    Adjustable front beam yes.

    The fact that the eye-eye at rest is different affects the length of your shock, but you really need to know how much more travel you've got before things start bottoming out.
    Eye-eye at rest minus distance between tyre/tub including margin gives you your lowest eye-eye travel point and this gives an idea of min shock length not including a built in bump stop to soften the bottom-out of the shock before it hits full close.


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  6. Where did you get the beam from mate

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  7. Gingerbus

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    I had that fitted by the place I used to do the restoration, who also left me with all the problems to sort out. Loads of places do them. VW Heritage for one. They're not cheap and you need to be sure that this is the route you want to go down.
    An adjustable beam means you can raise or lower to suit.
    Dropped spindles is another route.
    Narrowed beams, tub mods, smaller tyres etc etc.
    All methods of lowering have drawbacks - it's a matter of opinion and choice which way is least problematic! I've only experience of mine.
    I would speculate that dropped spindles allow a longer shock and that might give more options for possibly a better ride quality, but the clearance issues are always the limiting factor when lowering as far as I can see, whether it be tyres or anti roll bar, the lower you go the more problems you have to address, and lower means less travel and therefore less suspension cushioning.

    If you've got dropped spindles already it might be cheaper to stick with it for now, check all the clearances and see what your options are.


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  9. Mines not that low to yours

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  10. Gingerbus

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    Nice bus!
    Actually it looks a bit lower to me, although different wheel and tyres sizes don't help. Mine measures 14" from the hub centres to the bottom edge of the front arches, and 25 1/2" to the floor.
    I've only got about 3 1/2" between the tyre top and the tub, so my 'downward' travel is less than that and hits the bump stop before it gets that far.
    I'm that old I'm still using inches and centimetres all mixed up!


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  11. Mine is lower 23" to wheel arch from the floor.. and 12-3/4 to centre

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  12. Good old inches

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  13. If helps had to lower ours to get in garage, had adjustable beam anyway and had dropped spindles fitted but as above caused bottoming out due to shock length, fitted Gaz adjustable Renault 5 gt turbo ones off ebay loads cheaper and correct length too. Have lower profile tyres 50 fitted. Had to remove anti roll bar originally but may refit this soon. On rear was lowered too and gas shocks from T2d I think. All is good now only issue is slight wandering on motorways and can get on ferry under 2m too including poptop sky light.
     
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    this was when first did it but raised up a little now

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  15. Have you got a measurement of the shocks sitting thanks x

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  16. Ignore the kiss LMAO

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  18. Gingerbus

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    So the important bit - what's the gap between the tyre and the tub?


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  19. mikedjames

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    I dont have the anti roll bar as it snapped after I smashed into the ground in Ireland. Both front wheels suddenly dropped into 6 inch deep depressions in the road in a shopping complex built cheaply outside Dublin and the ARB took the hit. I was concentrating on accelerating onto a roundabout and assumed that the road was fairly flat.

    Instead, I found the Gaz coilovers that Scott at SGS aircooled fitted were quite adequate - I get more body roll perhaps but the bus is still stable and has a better ground clearance, so I am not constantly whacking sleeping policeman at 20mph. Instead it drives over them. I can still take corners at 35-40mph that my Peugeot 307 is starting to give me understeer on in the dry at 50mph, and I enjoy keeping pace with other cars on winding country roads. Until I run out of power up hill...


    You need to make sure the AR bar is on bent 'up' if you ha e a lowered beam, although I would have thought T2D should have done a better job than it sounds they have, given all the noise they make about cool lowered VWs.
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  20. Gingerbus

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    This might help if you go the Gaz route, also on the Gaz website, excuse my scribbles:

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