Yep before anyone points out between 100 & 300cc, I've worked that bit out for myself!!!!! Can you feel the difference in power ? Is all the tinware interchangeable? Carb jettings? Gearbox ratios? Speed? Torque?? My quandary is this, I have a 2000cc engine that is knackered & my bus has a 1700cc gearbox. Finding necessary parts to rebuild my 2000 is proving a mine field of problems & dead end leads. I've been offered a 1700 or 1800 engine rebuilt rocker cover to rocker cover. That I can put my tinware etc on, get it in & get it mot'd and actually drive the fookin thing!!!! I've read that the 2000 is 105 hp & the 1800 & 1700 are 92 & 83hp ????????? Is this right, would I really feel that difference?? It's a tintop 72 bay with Berlin interior, by the way, family if 3 on board with 2 small dogs. I do however hope to tow a small light caravan when I can afford to get one. Which engine would be best, 2000 obviously?? But would a 1700 or 1800 cope almost as well?? What you guys running???
The 2l is not 105BHP... the Porsche 914 2l is 100BHP, the vw 2l is 74BHP Why're you struggling to get bits...? Every vw supplier and their dog/cat sells type 4 parts!!
Hahahaha! You don't need to worry about speed power and torque! Basically they're all the same, 1700 and 1800 are pretty much identical, 2 litre uses a different crank and rods. 1800 and 2 litre heads are interchangeable, 1700 heads need to be fly cut to fit 18/20. 1700 and 1800 cases are the same, 2 litre cases are drilled bigger for the barrels. They all have different flywheels, so the 2 litre flywheel only fits the 2 litre boxes bell housing. Gearbox ratios are near identical. 1700/1800 jets are near identical. What you need to establish is whether you actually have a 2 litre engine and work from there. I'm answer to your other question, save for the parts I've listed everything else is interchangeable
In answer to the original question I would advise that 2 litre parts are the most readily available. I havent had an 1800 but can advise that the 2 litre has more toque and power but i feel is less driveable than the 1700 which i found quite a nippy engine in standard format. That said ive tweeked my 2 litre by the addition of dellorto carbs and an aftermarket (quiet) exhaust and it feels just like the 1700 did to drive but more powereful. Easiest route would be to put the 1700 in if its available to you. Quick fix and a fine engine if rebuilt properly. Incidentally my 2 litre is currently around 80ish bhp I think.
That'll be why a PO has butchered the bell housing on my gearbox, in order to get the engine to fit. Thanks, you did a great job & it looks 2nd to none.
Yep, 1700's like to be thrashed and are more driveable. They also explode in the most spectacular fashion Parts are easy to come by for all the derivatives, there was a time when 1700 b+p's were hard to get hold of but they're all back in stock now.
A lot to take in there!!! I'll read & re read these replies before I make up my mind what to do!!! Banty is digging out some parts for me on Saturday hopefully, we'll wait n see what he has got!!! Thanks everyone!!
This makes excellent reading http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/1911...ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108 tells you most things you need to know
Type 4 Engines (found on 1972-1983 Bus & Vanagon) CB CD EB EA EC ED AW GA GC GD GE CV 1972-73 Bus, 1.7 liter, Dual carb, manual trans 1973 Bus 1.7 liter, Dual carb, auto trans 1973 VW 412, 1973 Porsche 914, Calif emissions, L-Jetronic 1972-74 VW 411 / 412, 1972-73 Porsche 914, 1.7 liter, D-Jetronic 1974 VW 412, 1974 Porsche 914, 1.8 liter, Calif emissions, L-Jetronic 1975 Bus, 1.8 liter, L-Jetronic fuel injected 1973-75 Bus, 1.8 liter 1973-74 Porsche 914 , 2.0 liter, D-Jetronic 1975-76 Porsche 914 , 2.0 liter, D-Jetronic 1976-77 Bus, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Solid Lifter 1978-79 Bus, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Hydraulic Lifter (Same code was used on '78 w/oval exhaust ports and '79 with square exhaust ports.) 1980-83 Vanagon, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Hydraulic Lifter