Woolwich killing

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by bumpnudger7, May 22, 2013.

  1. hailfrank

    hailfrank Admin esq.


    Bs I was agreeing with you sorry it didn't seem that way. My comment about the tar brush is where you said no one finds it disturbing.
     
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  2. Well , imo its interesting , and its a FORUM, if any one expresses an opinion it is that , an opinion , which in my way of thinking , I need"nt agree/disagree with it , because (for me) an opinion cannot be right ,nor can it be wrong ,it cannot be a fact , it is what the person positing it , feels at the time .
     
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  3. hailfrank

    hailfrank Admin esq.

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  4. hailfrank

    hailfrank Admin esq.

    did anyone want a quote for their iq theories?

    Hodson and Busseri (2012) found in a correlational study that lower intelligence in childhood is predictive of greater racism in adulthood
     
  5. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    There's a surprise....
     
  6. That study was described as a contender for the worst use of statistics in an original paper ever by Dr William M Briggs, Professor of Statistical science at Cornell. It uses discredited studies from the 50s and the 70s
     
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  7. Moons

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    IQ measurement would stand up if you could isolate a single measurable quality, this has been debunked of late.

    Agree that perceived intelligence might not go hand in hand with world view.

    I'd nominate social conditioning has far more influence on racism than perceived intelligence, as does the immediate society of an adult that has probable fewer options due to said limited intelligence.
     
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  8. hailfrank

    hailfrank Admin esq.

    Possibly Paley, however the quote is still a 99% fact and not a daily mirror fact. And yes social circumstances has a lot to do with it too.
     
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  9. It's a Guardian fact - they are even worse. George Monbiot championed that study. The Guardian in their Komment Macht Frei section champion such nonsense. It's click bait, nothing else.
     
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  10. Poptop2

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    I did a kids iq test last year 85 i did well for me !
     
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  11. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I did pass my 11+ when I WAS a kid though !
     
  12. Silver

    Silver Needs points/will pay!

    I failed GCSE woodwork:(

    Don't tell my customers;)
     
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  13. Moons

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    Out of interest...what is racism? Is it a single threshold action that pushes you over what is acceptable?

    If so, is it one thing or a number of subtle things?

    As a footnote, I'm sure we all recognise that a persons religion is not their race.
     
  14. Guardian facts are in a league of their own. I'm never sure if the apply to the actual world we live in or somewhere else...
     
  15. During the 80"s I did a lot of "MENSA" tests ,end result was they informed me I had a high I.Q. (137) average ,according to them was 100 , I wish to state I question their methods /opinion of my test results and opinion of "intelligence" >>>>CLUE "!!! a lot of questions were multiple choice answers ! ergo , one could guess there way to membership of said organisation(membership min. score was at time 150 , so really, they were politely telling me I was and am >thick) whew!.
     
  16. Racism is, I would say, is the belief that all people of a race demonstrate the same traits.

    Religion is a choice, not a race and there are choices within a religion. Religion is no more a race than Stalinism or Fascism (to draw a controversial analogy)
     
  17. im just sick ..
    to think that our great national health service is now wasting money helping these murdering scum survive...:(
    if i had a say they would be pushed out in a yard behind the hospital bins, with no painkillers and left to suffer..
     
  18. But that would make us as bad as them, don't you think?
     
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  19. We want answers, not cadavers.
     
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  20. Ive had some time to watch the coverage and think about this and try to rationalise what ive seen and heard (and read). 2 losers who have latched onto what they believe to be a cause have killed another young man going about his lawful business in a very brutal and public attack.

    They wanted to be in the media and the media have managed probably to exceed their wildest dreams - aided and abbetted by politicians who made a massive deal out of having a meeting about it (incidentally meeting in Cabinet Office Briefing Room A or COBRA ((not as James Bond as you thought eh))).

    This was a terrible and brutal murder and the sensationalist publicity has now lead, in part, to what the two criminals wanted. To justify their actions by provoking a violent reaction in others as simple minded and as prejudice as they. It was sickening to see those angry racists wrapped in the flag of the country of my birth spouting their racist bile. Or muppets daubing grffiti on mosques.

    A young man has had his life needlessley taken away and a family is grieving for a needless loss. Two other young men who forwhatever reason have lost a grip on what makes us human are licking their wounds in hospital and looking forward to a life in prison, probably in the company of some of those flag wielding morons. I wonder how their families feel.

    I personally dont feel terrorised although I do feel that the media and our political elite have amplified this event unnecessarily. Im not a conspiracist I just think that modern knee jerk politicians pandering to the media do us no favours.

    I mourn the death of a decent young man who died because he became a target of a pair of disenfranchised criminals. Terrorists my arse!!! Scumbag murderers - yes!

    I have no intent to brand anyone here a racist and everyone is entitled to their view. Im not knowldegeable on Islam, nor for that matter any other religion but I think I have a reasonable grip on morality.
     
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