What's the difference?? 1700, 1800, 2000cc

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Lee C, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. Yep before anyone points out between 100 & 300cc, I've worked that bit out for myself!!!!!
    Can you feel the difference in power ?
    Is all the tinware interchangeable?
    Carb jettings?
    Gearbox ratios?
    Speed?
    Torque??

    My quandary is this, I have a 2000cc engine that is knackered & my bus has a 1700cc gearbox.
    Finding necessary parts to rebuild my 2000 is proving a mine field of problems & dead end leads.
    I've been offered a 1700 or 1800 engine rebuilt rocker cover to rocker cover.
    That I can put my tinware etc on, get it in & get it mot'd and actually drive the fookin thing!!!!
    I've read that the 2000 is 105 hp & the 1800 & 1700 are 92 & 83hp ?????????
    Is this right, would I really feel that difference??
    It's a tintop 72 bay with Berlin interior, by the way, family if 3 on board with 2 small dogs.
    I do however hope to tow a small light caravan when I can afford to get one.

    Which engine would be best, 2000 obviously??
    But would a 1700 or 1800 cope almost as well??
    What you guys running???
     
  2. :lol: The 2l is not 105BHP... the Porsche 914 2l is 100BHP, the vw 2l is 74BHP

    Why're you struggling to get bits...? Every vw supplier and their dog/cat sells type 4 parts!! :)
     
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  3. scooby
     
  4. Hahahaha! You don't need to worry about speed power and torque! Basically they're all the same, 1700 and 1800 are pretty much identical, 2 litre uses a different crank and rods. 1800 and 2 litre heads are interchangeable, 1700 heads need to be fly cut to fit 18/20. 1700 and 1800 cases are the same, 2 litre cases are drilled bigger for the barrels. They all have different flywheels, so the 2 litre flywheel only fits the 2 litre boxes bell housing. Gearbox ratios are near identical. 1700/1800 jets are near identical. What you need to establish is whether you actually have a 2 litre engine and work from there. I'm answer to your other question, save for the parts I've listed everything else is interchangeable
    :)
     
  5. You're way out in the HP btw. Think more 68 for a bus engine
    :)
     
  6. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    2litre ge states 68 with fi, i reckon some of mine have escaped mind..
     
  7. 2l FI with a 3 rib box

    NNNNEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWW
     
  8. Have you been up to Banty's?
     
  9. In answer to the original question I would advise that 2 litre parts are the most readily available. I havent had an 1800 but can advise that the 2 litre has more toque and power but i feel is less driveable than the 1700 which i found quite a nippy engine in standard format. That said ive tweeked my 2 litre by the addition of dellorto carbs and an aftermarket (quiet) exhaust and it feels just like the 1700 did to drive but more powereful.

    Easiest route would be to put the 1700 in if its available to you. Quick fix and a fine engine if rebuilt properly. Incidentally my 2 litre is currently around 80ish bhp I think.
     
  10. That'll be why a PO has butchered the bell housing on my gearbox, in order to get the engine to fit.

    Thanks, you did a great job & it looks 2nd to none. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Yep, 1700's like to be thrashed and are more driveable. They also explode in the most spectacular fashion :thumbsup:

    Parts are easy to come by for all the derivatives, there was a time when 1700 b+p's were hard to get hold of but they're all back in stock now.
    :)
     
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  12. A lot to take in there!!!:D
    I'll read & re read these replies before I make up my mind what to do!!!
    Banty is digging out some parts for me on Saturday hopefully, we'll wait n see what he has got!!!

    Thanks everyone!!:hattip:
     
  13. Is hp different to bhp??
     
  14. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    yes, you can't put bhp on a bacon sandwich
     
  15. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

  16. My knackered engine is a GD code, that's 2000cc, yeah??
     
  17. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Yes GD is 2000cc, mine is FI too
     
  18. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    Type 4 Engines (found on 1972-1983 Bus & Vanagon)

    CB
    CD
    EB
    EA
    EC
    ED
    AW
    GA
    GC
    GD
    GE
    CV
    1972-73 Bus, 1.7 liter, Dual carb, manual trans
    1973 Bus 1.7 liter, Dual carb, auto trans
    1973 VW 412, 1973 Porsche 914, Calif emissions, L-Jetronic
    1972-74 VW 411 / 412, 1972-73 Porsche 914, 1.7 liter, D-Jetronic
    1974 VW 412, 1974 Porsche 914, 1.8 liter, Calif emissions, L-Jetronic
    1975 Bus, 1.8 liter, L-Jetronic fuel injected
    1973-75 Bus, 1.8 liter
    1973-74 Porsche 914 , 2.0 liter, D-Jetronic
    1975-76 Porsche 914 , 2.0 liter, D-Jetronic
    1976-77 Bus, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Solid Lifter
    1978-79 Bus, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Hydraulic Lifter (Same code was used on '78 w/oval exhaust ports and '79 with square exhaust ports.)
    1980-83 Vanagon, 2.0 liter, L-Jetronic, Hydraulic Lifter
     
  19. MorkC68. I get lost trying to read technical stuff like that!!!
    I'm a mere simple painter!!!:lol:
     
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  20. If a 2000 is 74 bhp,
    What hp/bhp is a 1700 engine??
     

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