If it’s a folded piece of sheet steel riveted to the panel in front of the fuel tank then it’s from a Devon. I picked one up to fit to mine as I’ve bought a rusty lee bed which is more or less the same as a Devon and being full width I thought some extra support wouldn’t go a miss.
This may help @Bay Dreamer but if not I can get specific pics of the mechanism. We chopped down a Conty bed to fit it into the hybridised later Westy-lookalike interior that's in Chip. So long as you have the side supports and base you'll have a datum for where the bed needs to sit. Bolt it loosely together and you'll see whare you need fixings and how it works. It's hard with it all in bits tbh. If you are using fresh base boards, recover the metal reinforcing plates that the board fixing screws locate into from the old boards under the foam. They have captive nuts and spread the load and stress on the hinges when deploying the bed. You can just about make them out in the pics on the thread... Scroll to the bottom of the page... https://thelatebay.com/index.php?threads/chip.33075/page-4 And then after the usual banter, it continues on page 6. I used rivnuts to secure the rear of the frame on the corrugated panel above the fuel tank.. https://thelatebay.com/index.php?threads/chip.33075/page-6 If you want pics I can do them for you on the condition that any photos you subsequently post are the right way round lol
These are also used by Westfalia (continental), there was no reinforcing plate of mine. These on the base, wood screws on the back.
Yup. That's why it's important to get it all loosely lined up so you have a reasonable transition to the rear cushion and so the 2 boards that make up the seat sit level and don't dip.
True. Westy used those things to secure the headbanger brackets into the upper bed base coz they used machine screws for fixing. Available from Screwfix amongst others.
Eh? On mine they were used to secure the seat base to the RR brackets. What are head banger brackets?
The overhead rear cabinet on the late westy has a couple of L shaped brackets front and rear. They bolt into the cabinet itself, then up through the base board on the upper bed into some of those pronged T nuts. Late Westys have a big board at the rear, rather than the very specific brackets they used to secure the over bed cabinet on the Continental models
@Zed , These were on the Conty bed base I used as a donor for the hinges. I used new board and foam so it made sense to transfer the plates
Well there you go, I picked the staples out of my original cover, removed the original foam and no plates - woodscrews on the rear - 1973. Maybe they started cheaping out on the ply and needed reinforcement.
Yes photos would be really helpful as I find it all a little confusing to know what is missing or needed. I never got any foam covered boards for the seat base, back or the side seat with the table leg. From what you are saying it sounds like there may be other metal plates that were on the wood boards that I don't have and now need?
I don't understand what you mean here. You mention the head banger unit into the upper bed base? I also have to somehow attach the head banger unit.
That's easy, there should be a z shaped bracket either side taht simply hooks on the van structure at the top and a few screws underneath up into the cupboard + a row of self tappers along the rear, accessible through the rear hatch up through top of cupboard into van.
So I moved the spring loaded catches on the hinges and now the hinges make sense. It looks like someone has bent the brackets slightly either during use or afterwards. I am going to have to get the brackets straightened a little because the latches don't properly lock in. It is very difficult though because the hinges are rivited together so it is not easy to try and bend the metal back. As for the stay/rest brackets that sit under the seat base and rest on the edge of the bed when flat, I guess I am going to have to buy a complete set of new Westfalia style hinges from Just Kampers in order to just get those two pieces of metal? Does anyone know if the wardrobe, sink and side seat where also directly on the cargo metal floor or where they sitting on some kind of ply floor.
If you look at my head banger unit in the middle of the trolley, you can see that the curved side that goes against the roof is not enclosed with a piece of wood. Is there supposed to be a curved piece of wood sealing the top?
Wardrobe/cooker unit and sink/cooler/water tank unit shoud each have 2 x M6 eyebolts a few inches long. These are attched to the units through the eyes by screws. The threaded ends poke through the bulkheads with nuts and washers behind the cab seats, towards thetop of the bulkheads. The sink one also has one L bracket on the outside in the walkwat attaching it to the floor. thw wradrobe has same braket but on the face that faces the rear of the van and ends up inside the small storage space made by the panel with the table bracket. That panel is fixed to the floor inside by 2 L brackets and both the RR bed panel and the wardrobe by another L bracket for each. In addition there is an angle piece between the wardrobe an RR bed pane to support the rear of that small seat. I do hope I'm talking about the same conversion! Interestingly, if you fold the table up it's the right height to support the cooker if like me your sink unit lives in you cellar to make more space.
The ply ceiling extends back to the rearmost curve. between that and the hatch is a void never seen as it's hidden by the top of the shelf.
