Yes just fitted a 009 distributor and she now runs ok, I have static timed it to 7.5btdc I have no strobe she is running quite well just been up some tall hills and she went ok, The tick over is now quite high approx 1200rpm by ear I read that the timing should be done with a strobe , obviously I don't have one Will be ok to drive?
Nice one Yep, setting the idle on twin carbs is a little trickier than a single. Someone might know a trick....
Glad you sorted it enjoy your holiday as long as it gets you home that’s all that matters, I had a cable tie throttle to get me back once it’s almost parts of the charm of driving these all buses, you can service it to death runs fine for weeks then something random just happen when on holiday.
If you set it at 7.5 degrees static it should be ok. A faster idle than with the previous dizzy would indicate more idle advance so might be worth double checking it. You don’t want to exceed 30 btdc all in max centrifugal advance.
You have to blink very fast or ask "Dazzling Daves Disco Inferno" in the club house if you can borrow his lights for five minutes.
More advance at idle = faster rpm, so, if it was me I'd assume I probably didn't get the static timing quite right and turn the distributor clockwise until the idle resembles what I had before. That's going to be safer on the full advance too i.e. less (as you can't check it). As a general rule 009's full advance is a bit up in the sir, they seem to vary quite a bit and it's important that you don't have too much, so... A better solution would be to see if you could fit the condenser from the 009 onto the SVDA. The condenser itself is the same it's just a matter of whether the wire will reach the points. Maybe you could find a shop and buy a timing gun?
Just blank it off for now with a screw and tape for good measure. You’ll be needing it again when you ditch the 009 and go back to svda. Or 123.
Yesterday when I met merv he had the 009, I took the condenser from him walked 2 miles back to the camp site and fitted it to my svda, it made no difference, so I googled the part number and I kinda came back as 009 condenser only, so this morning I rechecked everything walked the 2 miles back to merv and borrowed the 009, fitted the condenser back to it and it runs as it is now, the 009 was 10 yrs old new in the box, its got a veewee part number on it 920vg0011, We did a 15min run just now and the temp reached 110 @40-50 mph , how can I keep it cooler, Can I check the thermoflaps or keep them open possibly, they should be set correctly from when I rebuilt the engine
Forget about the flaps for now ... Back off the ignition timing until you're roughly getting the same tickover as with the SVDA this will be on the safe side , 120* is hot for 40-50 mph in such a short time . OR Just buy a cheapo timing light from the Halfrauds equivalent , it's 1000 times cheaper than an engine .... Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
Ok thanks, the nearest place would be about 1 1/2 hours away, so I'm travelling back that way tomorrow , so turn dizzy anti clockwise? To reduce tickover?
Yes , tweak it back, but you may find its advancing timing and idling fast now because because its idling fast. Basically back off timing until it slows down a bit too much then gently bring it back up by going the other way to get 850 rpm. Two far retarded can also lead to it getting a bit hotter at the cylinder head as your burn happens at the wrong time... the hot gas starts shooting into the exhaust pipe and licking the sides of the cylinders internally.. also making a distinctly louder puttering noise.. as I found when the fundamental problem was the points gap rapidly closing to give about 7 degrees of timing retardation.. The only real difference between 009 and 205 condensers is if the plastic block through the distributor body is out of the way of the moving plate on a 205. some work with a knife fixes it. On a hot day at 50 mph , 110C may be a bit warm but not seriously hot, you are probably in the ball park. To static time it, 7.5 degrees on the pulley is 7.5/360 of the circumference of the pulley to the right of TDC (12mm on a T1) if no timing scale ( push TDC mark 12mm to left) . Then with engine set to 7.5 degrees , tweak distributor so either a light connected across the points just comes on, or you hear the click of the coil firing. Adjust carefully, that should be pretty close. And now you know why bringing a pre timed distributor and clamp as a spare is such a good idea.
OK, well something else gone wrong with your distributor then. Not unknown for the advance to get stuck or an advance spring to break. Has merv got a timing light? Perhaps he can help you check your full advance. Will he sell you the distributor so you can continue your hols? Or let you post it back later, or can you ebay a cheapy accuspark to your camp site? Whatever route you go, you really need to know whatever distributor you end up with is not over advancing.
Yes I purchased the distributor from him, i did ask about a strobe and he didn't have one , I was lucky he had a dizzy as he gave up 9 years ago and moved here , I also asked about a coil but he only had the dizzy tucked away, he now makes wooden furniture and things, I've reduced the idle to what sounds right ish , but I haven't driven it yet , can't drive it till the morning, I'm cutting the holiday short and will take approx 2 days to get back to calais its only a 7hr journey but we will be having regular stops, The vacuum part on the svda felt a bit notchy by hand
Shame about your hols being spoilt. Knowledge is power with a 50 year old van, I guess you've learned a few things at least. Safe journey back, take the back roads and enjoy 40-45mph? Better than blasting on the motorway and stopping to cool down.
I think I would static time it and just carry on..if you have an oil temperature gauge it will warn you if it climbs above 110 towards 120C .. A 009 cannot suffer sticky vacuum advance, not having one, as well as the weights being sticky so max advance will always be sensible even if the bus is more sluggish. (A working SVDA can add up to briefly give total advance of 45ish degrees, the 009 is more like 30ish) Also take the rotor cap off and rotor arm off then drip fresh oil (3 in 1, sewing machine oil, engine oil ,NOT WD40) onto the sponge down the centre of the distributor shaft to lubricate the concentric shafts of the weight driven advance mechanism..
You've done well to last this long - we'd have long since been home by now. In silence....... In fact that is a hypothetical scenario as we'd never have considered taking a bay abroad anyway, for exactly the reasons you've encountered.
