That missing plane.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rickyrooo1, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    Where's it gone? how can a plane just disappear with no debris if it has crashed into the sea? It baffles me that in this day and age when they know if you use a mobile secretly they can't pinpoint a plane.
     
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  2. There is a lot which is odd about it. Planes don't vanish from radar without trace. There seems to be confusion about which air traffic control the plane was under. When it went missing. Where it went missing at. Who was actually on board - dodgy passports, stolen passports and none travelling passengers galore. The black box is not transmitting, there are no debris, no mayday call... it is very strange and doesn't add up one bit!
     
  3. Aliens using crop circles to communicate with the pyramids. Obvious.

    What plane are we talking about, BTW?
     
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  4. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

  5. You been with these aliens making crop circles
     
  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Chinese triangle. :thumbsup:
     
  7. Remember that air France plane that went missing a while back? That took nearly two years to find I think. If it didn't break up and just sunk, it could take ages to locate.
    The weird thing is how two people with fake passports that should have flagged up as fake/stolen managed to get on the plane.
     
  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    It's a concern that the transponder stopped transmitting (it tags them on radar screen) - sound to me like a mid air explosion sadly.
     
  9. WHS :(
     
  10. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Even if it was a mid air explosion, there would be some debris on the ocean, by nature of the way the plane would have exploded, it wouldn't vaporise completely, there would be significant pieces of it floating.
    If it went into a dive and went below the surface of the ocean/sea, again there would be signs of its approximate area of impact.

    We (at work) have been involved in air accidents, one was the Quantas A380 which suffered engine failure, it is very surprising how resilient an airframe is to component failure, they have got the designs almost spot on & the redundancy in the airframe structure emphasises how good they are at designing aircraft!

    It is intriguing as to what has happened though!
     
  11. Im sure there will be debris...thye just havent found it yet...
     
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  12. If it was Hijacked, they could possibly have switched the Transponder off and then continued flying at 500 MPH, in any direction they chose without being detected by the radar services or satellite position reporting system.
    The aircraft could be an awful long way from where they are presently searching for it.
    I am suprised that the American spy satellites have not tracked it.
    Tony
     
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  13. Isn't Blofeld's secret mountain lair around there somewhere? The one with the opening at the top for secret aircraft to take off and land? ;)
     
  14. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Was there any scope for it to hit land?

    I thought modern telemetry systems were linked to satellite...

    They sure it took off!?
     
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  15. I watched that Qantas investigation on air crash investigation the other day, the pilots did rather well landing it, with that engine out the hydraulic failures and a shed load of fuel on board!

    Didn't see you in it though Mark :p
     
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  16. Does anyone else think its like the start of Lost and that they are all on an island somewhere? Maybe the Dharma initiative have something to do with it.
     
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  17. We're not allowed to talk about whether or not we helped Airbus investigate the wing cracks after that R-R engine failure... ;)

    If you recall the Airfrance plane broke up mid-air and it took them a long time to find even bits of debris floating let alone the airframe itself. They'll find it when they're looking in the right area.

    This one sounds all too familiar and sounds like a mid air break up the same. The Airfrance flight was found to be faulty pitot tube resulting in over speed, basically the aircraft ended up flying too fast and disintegrated. Every aircraft has pitot tubes...

    Crapping me self now as I'm on 777's next week. It's not like Malaysian is known or a bad safety record
    :(
     
  18. The air France flight stalled due to pilot error and it just belly flopped into sea as the nose was pointed up, sure they lost a few instruments but complete pilot error , think it was the 3rd in command flying as the pilot had gone for a sleep.
     

  19. :thinking:

    Its possible to find all sorts of incorrect Marmitee on the internet. Pitot tubes iced over causing over speed warnings. The planes intermittent stall no stall warnings caused pilot confusion, not pilot error. All pilots on this Airbus model have had to undergo additional training so they know how to react to this sort of situation. You're correct, it stalled and fell out of the sky.

    The final report states that the airframe itself was actually intact when it hit the ocean, that much is true, however the important bits of aerodynamics needed to enable them to recover the plane in flight had long gone.

    The report concluded that lack of training of the pilots, which actually stems back to poor resources and over view of safety procedures by the French CAA, allied with inconsistent warnings and displays in the aircraft led to the crash. Had a display shown 'Blocked Pitot tube' things may have ended up different.
    :)
     
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  20. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Which bit can't you talk about Niall?
     
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