Someone please explain to me why you would vote Tory.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tommygoldy, May 8, 2015.

  1. They went into a coalition and compromised to do so on the basis that they could do more good in it than out of it. Anyway, they got wiped out because of it and Labour got wiped out because they are not trusted. That leaves us with the Tories for 5 years.
     
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  2. CollyP

    CollyP Moderator

    Cock!
     
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  3. Strangely you may be right! Not just about the NHS.
    We have been unable to get a decent radio or TV reception in Burford/The Wychwoods for weeks, the situation strangely resolved itself today? o_O
     
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  4. You voted for me!
     
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  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    When our national debt has risen more in 5 years or Tory rule than under the previous 10 years of Labour governments, why is it that I keep reading the same nonsense stating that the Tories have "saved" the "nation" from labour maladministration.
     
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  6. Merlin Cat

    Merlin Cat Moderator

    @Top Banana Racing I think it may be because Andrew Marr was hanging about on the verge in Chippy. I think he was somehow blocking the signals ;)
    I'm camping next month at The Gate Hangs High with some old school friends. Should we leave modern technology at home? :)
     
  7. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Ok - here it is - the Tories haven't, in my lifetime, ever come off plan - their policies and executions have been consistent all the way through.

    Labour sadly has lost it's way with what it wants to be, and seems to want to be popular in a world of consumerism and self interest due to consumerism which is opposed to it's shared wealth ethos. They can't find their way without simply being the Tories by another name.

    The Lib dems - hard to be middle of the road when one side of the road has flopped across to the other.
     
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  8. That was Keith turning off his welder.
     
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  9. He regrets it now you are in office & as a massive arse @CollyP could fill a tory HOC seat!
     
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  10. I actually wait for you to say something these days, as its easier than me trying to write for myself. :)
     
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  11. No problem here in the posh end, as i was saying to Dave the other day :D
     
  12. Havent got a clue, maybe a more varied make up, we tend to marry our cousins out here in the sticks
     
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  13. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    Did you know there's a Working men's conservative club you can join in Leek Staffs . You can actually buy a red ruby champagne for all socialists with champagne tastes ...very popular buy all accounts !
     
  14. Failure to control an economic bubble based on massive increases in personal debt led to the deficit. Gordon Brown realised this after the event and tried to put it right, but unfortunately while the boom was running he wrongly believed it would go on forever. Such incompetence does rather hand the Tories the mantle of economic credibility on a plate and they can't be blamed for making the most of it and getting elected again.
     
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  15. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I tend to be the person that posts youtube links and talks nonsense....
     
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  16. Have a look at the percentages of the votes rather than the number of seats and it's quite sobering. The largest parties would be:
    Conservative 240 seats
    Labour 198 seats
    UKIP 82 seats
    Lib Dem 51 seats
    SNP 31 seats
    Green 25 seats

    Interestingly almost 2.5 million people voted lib dem. they got 8 seats. DUP got 8 seats with less than 200,000 votes.

    Likely the government would have been a conservative UKIP coalition with a few others propping them up so it could in that instance have been a lot worse. Almost 4 million grown up people voted UKIP. On that basis I'm relieved.

    I said milliband was unelectable the day he was announced as leader. I lived in hope but in vein! So.... Blame the unions that put him there that labour remains unelectable.
     
  17. It'll be the metal plates in TBR's head shifting again then.
     
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  18. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    From Wikepedia - the Big Bang reference is talking about the degregulation that the Thatcher government insitagted in 1986:

    Although the "Big Bang" eased stock market transactions there is a debate in the UK about how far it affected the 2007–2012 global financial crisis. In 2010, Nigel Lawson, Thatcher's Chancellor at the time, appeared on the Analysis program to discuss banking reform, explaining that the 2007–2012 global financial crisis was an unintended consequence of the "Big Bang". He said that UK investment banks, previously very cautious with what was their own money, had merged with high street banks putting depositors' savings at risk and ...according to the program leading US banks to follow suit.[4] In 2011 Gordon Br0wn said that deregulation of the banking sector by the incoming Labour Government of 1997 had also contributed by failing to understand how interdependent the banks were. Speaking at the Institute for New Economic Thinking's annual conference in Bretton Woods New Hampshire, Br0wn, Chancellor from 1997-2007 reviewed his changes:

    "We know in retrospect what we missed. We set up the Financial Services Authority (FSA) believing that the problem would come from the failure of an individual institution," he said. "So we created a monitoring system which was looking at individual institutions. That was the big mistake. We didn't understand how risk was spread across the system, we didn't understand the entanglements of different institutions with the other and we didn't understand even though we talked about it just how global things were, including a shadow banking system as well as a banking system. That was our mistake, but I'm afraid it was a mistake made by just about everybody who was in the regulatory business."

    BBC Article: Gordon Br0wn admits 'big mistake' over banking crisis.
     
  19. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
     

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