Low compression on two cylinders

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by kevin smith, May 30, 2020.

  1. I’ll post some tomorrow as soon as I go up to the shed
    Cheers
     
  2. Photos of pistons barrels and head cylinder 1&2
     

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  3. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Very hard to see on a phone, can you post the pictures? Half gets chopped off the way you're posting them but clearly water has got in one side, I bet you're glad you took it apart with all that crud in there.
     
  4. Post on the laptop?
     
  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    My ruddy laptop has spat out it's dummy or I could get a better look. Won't charge, won't run on the charger only which it should, I've replaced the socket, still no dice which only leaves the motherboard. Gahh!
     
  6. Did you get your lap top sorted?
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I think it's dead. It can only be the motherboard and it's not worth fixing, it's nothing special.
     
  8. Cool

    I stripped all 4 cylinders now and 3 and 4 were where the low readings were at comp test and 4 had a ring stuck full of gunk and both 3 and 4 need the valves ground and seated so I’ll go down that route seat the valves then reassemble for compression test before spending any money on it if the test is good I’ll get all new gaskets push rod tubes and seals etc and get it going

    is this the right approach???
     
  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Sounds good to me. You've found the cause(s) and you're fixing them. I'd do the same, it's daft to replace things for the sake of it.
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    How bad are the seats and valve stem ends?

    Don't expect miracles grinding it the seats are bad or the valves out of shape. Test the seal after by filling the combustion chambers with brake cleaner or similar and leaving them a while.

    One part it might pay to replace is the exhaust valves on both heads while in pieces.
     
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  11. Is that 4 exhaust valves 9mm shaft 32mm long ? What’s the logic behind changing them? Would the existing ones do just to do the compression test ?
     
  12. I tried the head on 1&2 yesterday with diesel absolutely no leakage then tried 3&4 today and it peed out of the exhaust valve
     
  13. The exhaust valves take a hammering hence the need for closer inspection . One of the many things you`ll need a bit of basic experience for to determin the condition and if they`re sealing properly .
    Pictures help but there nothing like a hands on close up examination ..

    :hattip:
     
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  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Are the ends of the exhaust valve stems flat as they should be, or dished? Unless they are flat I'd bin them. :)
     
  15. I wouldn’t know the difference lol
     
  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Just look at it. Nothing clever required. The bit the rocker hits, where you set the gap.
     
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  17. Cheers thanks
     
  18. There’s no sign of dishing at all

    so I’m going to grind and reseat the valves and hone the barrels clean everything up put it back together and see what compression I get then if the compression is good I’ll get it running and put it on a shelf for the future
     

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  19. Hi Zedders that’s me moved on a bit and got the valves out of one head now that I’ve cracked how to use the valve spring tool lol
    What I’ve found is the “ports” round the valve guides are full of crud so I’m looking for advice on how best to clean the heads before I grind and seat the valves
    My thoughts are brake cleaner / degreaser and pressure wash then considering putting the heads in the dish washer lol it’s been fitted over two years and I’ve never used it so thought maybe it’d make a good parts cleaner lol
    I’ve attached a couple of photos showing the heads and the crud

    the other thing I found was one of the valves has a plastic ring on it when I went to take it out (see photo) no idea what it is or why only on one valve?? HELP LOL
     

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  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Looks like the guides need replacing, one of them has pieces missing? How you'd best tackle all the crud it the ports I'm sure you can scrape it out.
     
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