Is this the biggest socialist advance since the war?

isn,t all pointless - are we just a figment of someones imagination ? Doctor Who says yes

 

Hays?

 

Sick Boy said: ↑
He can't be all bad - he likes Bays.

He's the only one in the village don't you know!!!!

 

I think the Conservatives have it about right. They have put forward good and sensible policies which could be paid for. All I hear from Labour is a string of promises which we know they couldn't carry out along with daft ideas to nationalise the railways and utilities and Royal Mail. We had all that before and it was rubbish. They are getting boring with all their promises.

The Conservative proposal to get the rich old people to pay their way is fair and right so the less well off could be properly supported.

And why should the government pay winter fuel allowances to rich people who don't need it or want it.

 

they could have given it back or donated it, as my old mate Pete used to.

...yeah, and those pesky kids. why do they need at least one hot free meal a day when child poverty is at peak levels and we can be subsidising posh nosh and champers for lords and MP's. bloody kids.

by the looks of it, they'll be creating a 'new' insurance product for the dementia tax; some have been reporting that there will not be a ceiling on the amount that can be taken from your home, though this could've been pre-election promises from osborne/may (osborne started planning this before he became a member of the free press).

I've been out canvassing this week and there's certainly a lot of support for corbyn and labour. i was surprised that most folk wanted to know if the local candidate supported Corbyn, as they did, but seems a lot of local candidates are a bit shy.... BTW, our MP is the odious, filibustering self-server P Davies who last time got a 10k majority - so this is not a natural labour stronghold as it probably should be.

I was also told by a 40 something woman that she was voting tory because she felt we, us women should be supporting a female pm (?), and a local cafe owner shouted "F-Off, I'm voting Tory!". I was about to shout "no chance of a cuppa, then?" but got pulled back and reminded that i was representing a candidate - i'm new to this and i wasn't going to swear but apparently sarcasm is frowned upon too

 

surely, that hasn't come as a surprise?

I am shocked by the contempt that they're showing their own core voters, i wonder if they don't want to handle the brexit hot potato - esp as May has already called them 'liars' even before formal negotiations have begun

 

I may be reading between the lines on this but one comment was that the limit was 100k while you where alive............
but anyone inheriting may still have a bill to pay..

 

i think, should it ever come into being, that it will be a huge case of read the very small print. caveat emptor. there's huge gains to be made by the financial markets and, presumably, the care homes and there's only one place that can be taken from

 

old folks are already paying for their own care at home. in my road, there are 3 ladies in their 80's, well off, own their own houses, pay carers to look after all their needs at home. It seems to work well and they are not complaining. Better than them being in a care home or hospital. Their families are ok with the arrangement, they don't have to spend time or their money looking after parents.

inheritance is not a right. when the elderly parents die, maybe there would be money or assets left over.

I wasn't left a penny and it didn't do me any harm.

 

me neither, thankfully parents are still alive, and i'm encouraging them to get it spent before they shuffle off.
i've never considered it a 'right', but i do think that this pledge will distress a great number of pensioners; what happens if one dies and the other still lives in the home and needs care later down the line?
Many young people can't afford to buy their own homes now because they didn't have the privileges of the past (now: zero hours contracts, university debt, low wages etc) and parents feel that at least they'll be able to leave them their home when they die; that will, and is distressing a lot of people.

Also, 50% of us will get dementia and not only in old age, again a living partner will suffer with this tax too. It doesn't seem to be very well thought through - though on Marr's politics show this morning one tory said that they hadn't had time to think it through (i'm sure they were referring to this) - they called the snap election!

Even their own think-tank are against it (and some of the lesser evil mp's) https://www.bowgroup.org/news/bow-group-press-release-elderly-care-biggest-stealth-tax-history

 

or the new 'duke of Westminster' inheritance tax on £9 BILLION avoided. how many nurses, teachers, school meals etc. would that have paid for.
I would've typed the sum inc all the zero's for greater effect but kept losing count :/

to the streets comrades, regardless of any previous political affiliations, we need to work together to get this shower out- i even had to wear a rosette yesterday, a rosette! but this is too important to let my cringe-threshold stand in the way of.

 

To many of us who grew up under Callaghan, Harold Wilson et al the prospect of a theoretical socialist Prime Minister backed by an avowed Marxist Chancellor is a pretty grim prospect however much its wrapped up in "fairness".

 

The very definition of socialism is parity and fairness. Without quotation marks.
However, I would still argue that it's a better option than the travesty of a government that has plunged us into more debt with no positive results, therefore the cuts were ideological. Schools are asking for donations, child poverty has increased, pensioners poverty increased and people dying through not getting the care/funds they need. Where has the money gone? (Hint: check the rich list)
Isn't "fairness" preferable to to this?


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the Independent Labour Party began here, in Bradford with the mill workers. ok, so that's about as much as i know about bradford but there's a great painting on a wall celebrating it. unfortunately, there's still a lot of 'mill owner' mentality around here and the outskirts are tory strongholds... for now.

 

May's party gain voters by giving the lie that you are somehow a class above and not down with the working classes. Sorry but if you have to work for a living you are one of the working class, whether or not you try to class yourself as upper or lower working class.
Divide and rule has been a good philosophy of the nasty party for a long time.
Greed has been around since Adam and Eve but making it acceptable has been the preserve of the nasty party.
Smashing the unions and industries that created communities was a pastime the nasty party enjoyed.
When the steel industry was in trouble the Tories said they were sympathetic when the oil industry was in trouble they went up with £ 50m? suppose its ok if your a party donor.

 

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totally agree!