insulation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kenregency, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    What insulation and how to insulate your van ? any help please:)
     
  2. that spray on foam just squirt it about :D
    sorry im not helping
     
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  3. I have double glazing and it is still freezing....I think the floor is the best to spend a lot....
     
  4. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    Your not helping DO ONE :)
     
  5. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    barney i Get more sense when we talk farts:)
     
  6. how rude , the first advise is always the best ya know :rolleyes:
     
  7. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    whats rude , farting ?:confused:
     
  8. serious answer to a serious question:
    to properly insulate your bus (for sound/warmth) you need to start from scratch...a bare bus.
    tank the underside with a heavy underseal
    install dynamat or similar to cover approx 20% of each panel (doors, side walls, arches, bulkheads, cargo deck, firewall etc etc.)
    Replace the woefully inadequate sound proofing above the engine bay with a lead sandwich (code 4 lead sandwiched between two sheets of 20 mm closed cell foam)
    install rock wool (bagged) around the (dynamatted) fuel tank
    tank the inside panels and floor with rust preventative paint (epoxy or similar)
    install 12mm closed cell foam lining behind the trim panels.
    install a sealed vapour barrier between closed cell foam and trim panels
    20mm closed cell or Jute underlay on the floor
    9mm ply over this
    reflective (Foil faced) laminate underlay over this
    Carpet over this
    Ensure all seals are good

    Pop top headliner needs to be removed and either polystyrene or rock wool (bagged) between roof and hardboard liner
    reflective scrim (foil facing the roof side) installed before insulation

    That's without treating any box sections

    It's a big job to do it properly

    and replace crappy pancake filter (if fitted) with original air filter box to reduce induction noise
     
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  9. see that el teach ya ken , now get it sorted n stop ya moanin
     
  10. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    No i will not be doing that then but is it ok to remove inner cards and fill with rockwall?
     
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  11. Only camp when it's warm
     
  12. :rolleyes:
     
  13. only if you bag it so that moisture cannot infiltrate....Closed cell foam is better but will also require a vapour barrier between the foam and the trim panels

    rock wool is good for heat insulation but only attenuates higher frequencies....closed cell foam will provide similar heat insulation and reduce a wider range of frequencies
    if you're going to the trouble...kill two birds with one stone. Do dynamat the metal panels also....it's an hour of a job and worth the cost
     
  14. Basically...what happens when you insulate a structure, you're raising the temperature sufficiently to absorb more water vapour in the atmosphere...this vapour will condense on any surface colder than the surrounding surfaces, hence the need to install a vapour barrier...otherwise, you are simply increasing the levels of condensation

    another worthwhile accessory which i've rarely seen fitted to buses is a ceiling fan...heat rises
     
  15. kenregency

    kenregency Guest

    is that the insulation in between foil layers like on the pop top thread?
     
  16. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Basically, just stick a bit of lead flashing to the centre of each panel (does the same as dyna-mat but cheaper), then stick the foil-backed bubble wrap to each panel and call it a job.
    Happy days.
     
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  17. WHS^^^ ;)
    You'll lose most of the heat through your glass anyway :)
     
  18. could be but i didn't read it. closed cell foam is essentially trapped air...bubble wrap is the same
     
  19. Don't see the point of doing half a job tbh....
     
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