Better quality HT leads?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by SkutterBob, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. After sorting out my ICT34 jets as recommended on Gowesty website and fitting new spark plugs and HT leads, I now have a slight miss-fire. I am not impressed with the Bosch changing the design as they are now using the full sized ends instead of the threaded pin and also have fixed covers. The rubber is quite ridged which makes them difficult to fit and I suspect are not making electrical contact properly.

    My old Bosch HT leads were damaged and I binned them thinking all was ok.

    What is another decent make for the money? Are Forst ok? Don't really want to spend Pertronix kind of money if I have to.

    Cheers.
     
  2. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Go to Stateside Tuning and get a set of Taylor Spiro Pro leads, £24 a set. . Fat 8mm silicone leads. And you can have them in other colours than black too.

    Some people have teething troubles with them as they are different- dont try getting the plug air seals into DP T1 heads for instance, just rest them on the outside of the head tin.
    They dont fit in 6mm cable management- the chromed EMPI clamps need drilling out to 8mm for instance.

    They clip onto spark plugs with the screw on caps still fitted too.

    They survived being in a burning engine bay.
     
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  3. I thought the covers were always supposed to go on the outside of the tin. Is that not right?
     
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  4. Yes
     
  5. You thought right, they just rest against the outside of the tinware.
     
  6. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    The Taylor covers are thicker and have a groove in them, instructions are to put the cover so the tinware is in the groove.
    This works on Single Port tinware where the holes are isolated because there is only a single manifold tube going down between them.

    They are not direct copies of anything.
     
  7. If that's his website price.. dont forget to add inflation since about 2000!..Jim is not one for updating much..

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  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I just bought another cheap type-4 set afer seeing a Bosch set for £125.50 (machine7) ...I had Bosch ones on my type-1 but they were more like £40 at the time and I thought that was pushing the boat out. £125 is taking the pee. Nice leads though - £60 would have been just about acceptable.

    The cheap set that turned up are nothing like advertised picture, the coil rubber end too small and because they used silicon spray to assemble them the rubber caps keep springing off.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2020
  9. I always make my own . Buy the components way cheaper and just make them up
     
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  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    One of the type-4 plugs (bus not car) needs a very long cap and another isn't much shorter. Hard to find - the nearest thing I did find was an NGK cap, not quite long enough really. Do you have any suggestions?
     
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  11. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    That must be a typo on Machine7, £23.35 for a type 1 but £125.50 for a Type 4 can’t be right, should be £25.50?

    I use Bosch 8mm grey leads but I definitely didn’t pay £125.50 for them.
     
  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Damn you're right. Having googled for type-4 leads I didn't see the type-1 set. They look different though. I'll give them a call but I think £25 sounds unlikely - too cheap?
    Edit: they are different quality.
     
  13. I gave up on the finding the long ones..

    Mr Retro Leads on eBay said he could make a set for the price of the parts pretty much..

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112036133065

    Fit ok, not really run in anger or long term yet but seem good

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  14. Don't think you can ring Machine 7. Annoying and catches me out every time!
     
  15. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Not on website, but of course they do have a telephone. Whether they'd answer it or discuss HT leads is another question.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=machine7 tel number&oq=machine7 tel number&aqs=chrome..69i57.9932j0j4&client=ms-android-motorola&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#trex=m_t:lcl_akp,rc_f:nav,rc_ludocids:14227737275555540727,rc_q:Machine%207,ru_q:Machine%207,trex_id:v3LZhb
     
  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The link or the tel?
    Tel: 024 7635 6465
     
  17. The phone number is disconnected.
     
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  18. Dubs

    Dubs Sponsor supporter extraordinaire

    Machine 7 are usually pretty quick to answer emails. The phone thing is annoying though..
     
  19. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Looking at their company info it's a one man band with wifey as secretary probably because back when they incorporated two directors were required. £1/4M stock, makes around £50k dividend plus whatever wages he pays himself. Nice little business but hard work keeping your stock and prices up to date, answering emails, dispatching...
    Yours,
    Mr Nosey.
     
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