Bell Crank or Hex Bar?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by F_Pantos, Sep 15, 2020.

  1. I'll check mine, thanks.
     
  2. If you've got Dells, you will have a right and left hand carb (as you know ;)). Just wondered if @77 Westy 's were. Might affect the linkage arrangement.
     
  3. I can't honestly say it registered with me. I'll get a photo, hang on....
     
  4. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    No, nothing fabricated, that’s just fitted using the parts CSP supply, the only extra item bought was the return spring.

    Zedders fabricated a bracket to move the linkage to the other side of the carbs.
     
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  5. Here's my Dells, they look handed to me, to push outward the controls joints would have to be on the back, I think :thinking:

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    Edit, so that would necessitate the linkage being on the rear, wouldn't it?
     
  6. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It should be easy enough to set up your Dells for a centre linkage to pull or push them open. I prefer pull.
    If you have the engine roof hatch fit it as it comes should be straightforward.
     
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  7. Sadly, a hatch is something I lack :( I am hoping to develop a longer neck, instead.
     
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  8. DubCat

    DubCat Sponsor

    Andrew I set mine up the same way as 77Westy. I just swapped the cars left to right and had the linkage near the bulkhead then - easier with a hatch to be fair.
     
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  9. I wonder if that's why CSP don't recomend the bell crank style for a stock type 4?
     
  10. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    The carbs and bulkhead are in the same place regardless of whether the engine has upright cooling or not and I expect if you ask CSP why you can’t use their bell crank on a standard engine they couldn’t tell you. And they couldn’t tell you because you can.:)

    It’s better to have the linkage pulling, then there is no risk of the rods bending. And that’s how the CSP linkage works, pull the throttle cable and the rods move towards each other. Either swap your carbs from side to side so the throttle linkage is by the bulkhead and use the CSP bell crank as supplied or leave the carbs as they are and modify the bell crank, as zedders has, so the linkage is on the hatch side of the carbs. You’ve got pics of both, your choice what to do.

    If you like fiddling, and don’t have a hatch, having the linkage at the back of the bus makes it easier to fiddle but if you just like to set it up and forget about it having the linkage by the bulkhead isn’t really a problem – I haven’t touched mine for ages.
     
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  11. I got confused, sorry, still tired. So you (@zedders), not @77 Westy, had to fabricate a bracket to move it all to the front and make it pull?
     
  12. Got one in items for sale if helps

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  13. Can I twang your spring :oops:?
     
  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The brackets were purely to mount it hatch side of the carbs.
     
  15. Saucy....
     
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  16. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I was just looking on eBay and they sell steel hexagon bar for quite sensible prices. All you need is to find a mate with a lathe who can turn the sockets for the ball joints in the end...

    And also fit the cross bar above the hex bar to act as an accurate spacer for when you move the carburettors.
     
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  17. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    The bell crank linkage pulls whether it’s in front of or behind the carbs.

    If you mount the bell crank in front of the carbs (front as in front of the bus by the bulkhead) swap the carbs left to right and right to left and the linkage fits without modification – my pics.

    If you mount the bell crank behind the carbs (behind as in back of the bus, hatch side) leave the carbs where they are and modify the linkage – zedders pics.
     
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  18. Repair, or replace with something simpler? Decisions.... decisions....:thinking:
     

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