Total noob here. Posted on another forum about whether it was a set conversion co. that put the wheels on the front. The post turned to safety and tbh now a bit freaked out. The point was made in a head on collision the first point of contact is designed to be the bumper under the driver - with a wheel on that sticks out further than the bumper so it becomes the new first point of impact potentially crushing the cab first. I realise we’re talking 40+ yr old vehicles here so it’s never going to be the same safety as a modern car… but… what are people’s thoughts? My spare is in terrible condition so even if I did get a flat I’d be needing to call AA anyway (only just got her so haven’t had a chance to get the spare looked at).
I wouldn’t want a head on collision in a bay with, or without, the spare wheel there. Personally, I wouldn’t worry about it.
Bear in mind that some of the Westfalia's had a big plastic cover over the spare wheel which stuck out but not past the bumper, thus I'd not worry about it either way to be fair, I'd just avoid having a front end accident!
You wouldn't want to have a front-ender in a Bay anyway, but if you insist, best done in a Late Bay with the deformation panel and "Y" chassis members. Actually did quite well in US crash tests (in the 1970s). Best avoided, anyway. The main peril of a wheel on the front is if you bump into something in Sainsbury's car park - it'll put a great dent in the front panel.
PS If you were looking on the earlybay.com forum, it is true that dentures need a good soaking overnight. And, generally, Horlicks is better than cocoa.
Learn to drive the bus well, anticipating things ahead... In my experience there's always clear road ahead.
I think the difficulty in answering your question is that there is unlikely to be hard evidence to back up any view. The old expression 'show me the accident you are going to have and I'll tell you the protection you need' possibly applies. I'm no expert but I doubt the spare wheel would act as a modern crumple zone would because of the structure it is attached to. Lots of VW campervans have this configuration, lots don't. Without the facts, you are probable just going to have to choose what makes you feel most comfortable.
Y that is the plan. Yes I’ve seen these ones shared seems like they moved the bumper forward. I think I’ll keep driving like a granny, slow and steady is safest.
Also,if your vans at standard height,you may be lucky in a head on, and just ride up over the car, decapitating the occupants.
No need to drive like a granny. Just look where you’re going . It’s the ones you don’t see that get you. And you wouldn’t see those anyway…
Use your extra head height to look over the cars in front. Try seeing how your bus stops and leave a bigger gap as a result. Dont roll out too far at road junctions underestimating stopping distance. If your bus is lowered the deformation panel is too low anyway. You dont have an engine just above your knees, theres actually some space.
One advantage of having the spare on the front is that pigeons bounce off it without denting your front panel
Thanks for sharing, really interesting second video as well giving the first one some context. The first one was a bit shocking until I saw the second one...phew
Many, many years ago I had an exhaust fitted to the bay. It was on the ramp & chap reached up & started the engine to see how it sounded. Sadly he'd left it in gear and it rolled forward until it hit the wall, which in those days was corrugated asbestol and shattered instantly. There was a LOT of shouting from the unit next door and then the van stopped. Bob the mechanic had a siezure & the chaps from next door ran round to administer CPR. The van was saved by the front mounted spare, the only damage was that the radio ariel had a bit of a kink in it.