house moving etiquette?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rickyrooo1, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. A feel that's a rather simplistic view, because people would still have been able to pull out at the eleventh hour, since the recession the freehold residential market in most areas is already pretty low on stock and this would have brought it to a halt. And I still wouldn't have wanted to rely on someone else survey and searches, and you would have increased/doubled the surveyors costs for everyone and would have increased the solicitors fees (or introduced someone else into the chain) for putting the HI pack together.
     
  2. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    There are a lot of simple people out there unfortunately, many of whom seem to play at buying / selling houses when they've got no intention of doing either. The introduction of the the HIP would have gone a very small way towards cutting these out.
    I didn't say it'd do any more than that.
     
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  3. What a nightmare...:mad:

    Did the seller tell you ?
    or just chicken out and leave it to others...
     
  4. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    to clear up now the facts are known, it seems the sellers solicitor was at fault a lot on this one, basically remember we were dealing with an elderly couple so they were on the whole relying on their solicitor and it seems "misled" a bit, they were moving into a sheltered/warden patrolled bungalow which unbeknown to them had a million and one clauses attached to it that their solicitor knew about but hadn't forwarded onto them, including things like hidden fees and not being allowed pets etc etc all which would have made it very difficult for them to actually work with, mrs roo was contacted by the actual seller himself yesterday who was in tears apologising to her and explaining they had tried all they could to sort it but couldn't help the outcome in the end, it doesn't make it any easier for us but at least we know he wasn't doing it out of spite it was just a spiralling problem, it is what it is - obviously not meant to be so we move on.
     
  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    That's a sad story of an elderly couple being kept in the dark. Incompetent solicitors then,we should have guessed!
    They did similar to us, springing on us the fact that someone unknown had vehicle right of way through our garden when we went to sign! They hope by doing this you'll be so up to your neck you'll just say F it and sign anyway.
     
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  6. So as usual ..the solicitor still comes out on top...:rolleyes:
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    In fact, though the couple should not have relied on the solicitor to inform them of rules etc, good for them for not being bamboozled into an unsuitable home?

    Something even better will turn up for both them and yourselves. :thumbsup:
     
  8. sANDYbAY

    sANDYbAY On benefits-won't sponsor!

    @rickyrooo1 i do believe a guy called Zed is trying to sell his house. You could get it very cheap.
     
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  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Ha- you're kidding, it's not even on the market and I'm fending off buyers. ;)
     
  10. bernjb56

    bernjb56 Supporter

    I think I'll stay put - you forget what a nightmare house buying is. Is your buyer still in the picture then @rickyrooo1 ? Could end up putting you in a cash buyer position if you do rent for a bit. That has to be a positive :thumbsup:
     
  11. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    our estate agent is talking to our buyer to see if they can give some leeway, we are viewing 5 properties tomorrow (empty) in different areas to see if we can compromise a bit, we await to see what our buyer says, if they want in we will move and rent purely to not lose the sale although we are hoping they will bear with us.
     
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  12. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I assumed this is what people meant - if people actually mean that you advertise something and are then made an offer which you accept - you are then not allowed to change your mind - best of luck with that.
     

  13. could all work ok then .. :hattip:
    i hope you find something better,,
    fingers crossed for ya..:thumbsup:
     
  14. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    The HIP originally had a clause planned whereby when a bargain was agreed - you incurred cost to the other party for searches etc if you, as the seller pulled out.

    It was an excellent piece of legislation - blocked at every turn by those vested in carrying out numerous surveys on the same property but charging for each, and estate agents that need full windows and footfall to function.
     
  15. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Sometimes the seller can have a fair reason as in this case. What might help is simply to speed the whole deal up so if it's going to go wrong it goes wrong quickly and everyone can move on. The money problem is that the seller looses nothing and this needs to be addressed somehow if only to sharpen the sellers mind.
     
  16. I might be wrong but I don't think it would have allowed a potential purchaser to reclaim their costs from the vendor. Just that the vendor by pulling out would have to pay his own solicitors abortive fees and would have already incurred fees for the HIP which was going to be about £500. It is highly unlikely to have made a difference in the circumstances that resulted in Rick's predicament.

    The only way to change it is to adopt a system like in Scotland where having made an offer you become legally bound to proceed, I haven't operated in that market so I have no idea what happens if someone pulls out nor how much impact it has on market activity.

    Anyway I have a few survey reports to write so back to work I go.
     
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  17. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    You are correct - the watered down version that they ended up rolling out (and still got blocked) was as you describe. The original vision, had the same caveats as the one I describe - very similar to the Scottish deal.
     
  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    God help anyone in a chain who's selling in England and buying in Scotland if their buyer pulls out.
     
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  19. I can only recommend that you don't rush onto anything now. Make sure you really like the next house and even more importantly, the Mrs does?
    We had our last house on he market for two years before a buyer turned up. We needed a bungalow for our youngest disabilities and there was only one on the market in the area with nearly half decent third bedroom. We just went for it even though the Mrs didn't really like it. She still hates it and frequently lets me know and that she wants to move again.
    With hindsight probably should have gone into rented until a bungalow turned up that he Mrs liked even though we had already been looking for two years prior and totally lychee with it all.
     
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  20. Birdy

    Birdy Not Child Friendly

    *****ing solicitors. My buyers solicitors drove me and my solicitor to drink. I almost called in rough rent boys to whip me until I could bleed no more because of their unbelievable stupidity.
    Can your sellers not find something else and you and the chain wait a bit??
     
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