Your bus has stopped at the side of the road - what basic check do you do.

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Poptop2, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Don't panic just yet. Here are a few basic checks.

    First of all, If either of the red lights on the dash have lit up and you ignored them it could have been a fan belt gone ( ignition light would have stayed on) If you have driven on after that and the fan was broken, the engine may have overheated and seized the engine. Game over.

    If the red oil light came and you didn't stop right away. same as above, the engine may have seized. Game over. The big yellow taxi is beckoning.

    Check the above by putting a spanner on the crank nut and turning. if it turns freely it's okay and will probably be one of these below...

    If your van just stopped then it is likely an ignition fault. Walk to the back and open the noisy cupboard ( which will be surprisingly quiet right now ) and take off the red distributor cap on the left of the fan pulley ( it has wiry things called ht leads coming off it ) Turn the engine over by hand, either by winding the fan belt round or putting a spanner on the crank nut. check the points are Actually opening. If not clean them check the cap and rotor arm connection and reset the gap. You Should be on your way.

    If the gap is okay and all is visibly fine and it still won't go it is time to check you have a spark. Take an ht lead off a spark plug, insert a spare plug if you have one ( just the ht lead will do if you don't) hold the plug or ht lead close to a metal bit of the engine and get someone to turn the engine over on the key. look at the end of the plug or lead and see if a blue spark is arcing across onto the metal. if it does you have spark ( if not it is possibly fuel starvation causing the stop- have you got fuel?) If not then you could have a condensor or coil problem. To check there is a live feed to the coil. check the fuel cut off on solenoid on the lh side of the carb. Turn the ignition on and remove the wire that attaches to the solenoid - CAREFUL NOT TO TOUCH THE WIRE TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE CONNECTION IT CAME OFF IT IS NOW LIVE. Re attach it to the carb and you should hear a click from it. This means there is a live feed to the coil, so it could be a dodgy coil or condensor. If you have either as a spare replace them in turn, if not call the BYT (mention the condensor or coil problem to them, he may bring one.

    If there was popping, misfire or banging before it stopped it is probably a rotor arm or dizzy cap problem, replace if you have a spare. or clean contacts with emery cloth and try again. You can usually see crud on the contacts, it should be shiny and bright. a broken or cracked dizzy cap will not run smoothly. replace it.

    If the van coughed and sputtered before coming to a halt, it is likely a fuel problem, apart from checking you do have fuel. check the live to the solenoid as described before. secondly, check the fuel is getting through to the carb by pulling off the black fuel line to the left of the carb, hold the end of it in a receptacle and get someone to turn the engine over for a short blast, there should be fuel pumping into the receptacle. TAKE GREAT CARE DOING THIS AND DON'T SET FIRE TO YOURSELF. TELL THEM TO LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. If you do not have fuel coming through, you have either run out, have a blocked fuel filter or line or there is problem with your fuel pump. clean and check if you can, replace it and test again. still no fuel? ring the BYT.

    Finally and worst of all, if your engine made a big clattering noise just before it died, then it is likely it has seized. Game over. phone the BYT. or try the fuel pump test again - with less care.

    Happy dubbing.

    :thumbsup::worship:
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2014
  2. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    kick it :D

    start with the simplest first & then hit it with a hammer :lol:
     
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  3. Check the fuel gauge. :)

    Or, if it doesn't work, try and remember when you last filled up.
     
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  4. Pod

    Pod

    Great post but you should also check to see if you are in France :)
     
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  5. Check the battery on the mobile and call the AA? (This may not necessarily be the truth)
     
  6. Silver

    Silver Needs points/will pay!

    Twice when my van has 'stopped' at the side of the road, the engine has been running fine.:)
     
  7. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Did you stop for a brew?
     
  8. Silver

    Silver Needs points/will pay!

    Dogging:D




    That or driveshafts falling off:thinking:
     
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  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The beauty of that one is that even a short-sighted baffoon would spot it. :)
     
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  10. wait for a bolt up your arm and call the medical services..[if you have a heart condition]:thumbsup:
     
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  11. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    You should have written it Mick. You're Far more knowledgeable than me. :thumbsup:
     
  12. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Aside of when your drive shaft dropped off near Skipton - Dent Easter 2013 :thumbsup:
     
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  13. really, i changed a clutch when it only had the driveshaft adrift..:thumbsup:

    use some insulated pliers and you can turn the crack by hand [with ignition on]so you know when the spark is coming..
     
  14. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Good tip. I just wedge the end somewhere and stand back.
     
  15. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    very good, can you do it as a flow diagram please.
     
  16. I just tell a passenger to hold it, although they're getting wise by now.
    Funnily enough had a little hiccup on the way to work this morning :) Spent a couple of hours in a field next to the motorway having a nap, waiting for a tow.
     
  17. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Best I can do at short notice.

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  18. LHD bus drivers will be along in a minute to tell how superior their break down experience is, because the driver can get out to fix it without being wiped out by oncoming traffic. ;)
     
  19. Tis true of course. The downside is when you find out it's beyond ones basic knowledge and decide to put the kettle on you have to step into the traffic to access the sliding door.
     
  20. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    why don't you go through the walk through.?
     
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