Would you like a second referendum

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jivedubbin, Jan 15, 2019.

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Would you like a second referendum

  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    27.7%
  2. No

    34 vote(s)
    72.3%
  1. bernjb56

    bernjb56 Supporter

    Not sure why - we have got the other one open.
     
  2. it's open
     
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  3. Yeh but not open n shut case
     
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  4. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    That would involve my knowing how all the knobs and dials work on here.

    Best for me to concentrate on reading private messages.
     
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  5. You can read private messages :eek:
     
  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Best part of the job!
     
  7. From here the govt can go two ways to gain the votes needed to secure a deal in parliament. The first is to pivot towards the opposition and support a customs union, that will alienate the ERG as a customs union will mean no independent trade policy. The second is further towards the PM's own party and hence towards the ERG. Looking at the news this morning, I suspect that is the PM's approach, I cannot see this strategy securing a majority in parliament, it will improve the numbers, but it won't appeal to those who dislike the backstop, we know who they are! Recall, the backstop is an EU redline not a govt redline, PM cannot change the backstop unless the EU blink first.

    If all the ERG rebels come onside, she will still lack the backstop haters, without them there's no majority.

    PS. It is not clear if a customs union has to include freedom of movement, Turkey have a customs union with EU, but not freedom of movement, important to add that Turkey's custom union is historical and may not be possible to replicate at this time.

    Edit: Generally, the four freedoms, including freedom of movement, are part and parcel of the Single Market, which is not the the same as a customs union.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2019

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