uber rare, rear 3 point inertia seatbelt bracket

Discussion in 'Late Bay Parts Classifieds' started by davidoft, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. davidoft

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    The wardrobe is in the way they only work on one side of a 3/4 bed really
     
  2. Damn baby no two is on the way wonder if there's any way of securing two child seats in the rear. Don't want to put one in the front as it's lhd and going straight towards the oncoming traffic
     
  3. roof rack.

    .. or pull the wardrobe out and go full width like i did. wardrobes are overrated anyway.
     
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  4. davidoft

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    I'm full width too :D
     
  5. It's a symptom of middle age..
     
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  6. You can use these for a 3/4 bed both sides - I have for a 7/8ths. You need to either fabricate, or get your friendly jobbing welder to make up a 5mm steel plate box section that bolts up flat against the side wall seatbelt bracket mounting points behind the wardrobe and then extends out across the base and side of the wardrobe to locate a new flat plate inside the cupboard outer face, which replicates the original body mounting points. Then its just a case of bolting one of these wonderful seatbelt brackets through the wardrobe front face into the new steel mounting plate that is sitting behind. ( ie you have effectively moved the original seatbelt mounting points outwards to the edge of the cupboard. Although not needed, you may also mount a bolt through the bottom of the box section into the floor ( dont hit the petrol tank ) to give you confidence that the box section will not pull sideways in an impact.
     
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  7. Sounds just what we need any pics ? Cheers
     
  8. Give me a week to get to the van and I'll do you some photos


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  9. davidoft

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  10. Oops - will do this weekend


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  11. Hi, do you still have any brackets a available please?

    If you do, how can I get a pair?

    Thanks.
     
  12. davidoft

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    i still have some, pmd you
     
  13. As previously promised..... How to fit davidoft seatbelt bracket to a 7/8 or 3/4 seat, using the side cupboard:

    apologies - difficult to get clear photos.

    The aim is to replicate the bracket fixings that are on the side of the van, but have them on the outer side of the cupboard. so that the bracket can be bolted to the outer face of the cupboard.

    Get some 4mm steel plate made up into an 'eared' box section - there are two side pieces which have holes in them that line up with the fixing holes in the bracket, and also the holes in the side of the van. You will bolt through one plate onto the side of the van, and then the second plate will sit out at the edge of the cupboard, and you will bolt the seatbelt bracket into this one ( these can be either holes or can be tapped with the correct threads to take the seatbelt blolts directly )

    Then you have a top and base piece, which connect the new outer face side back to the side that will bolt up to the van wall. I also added some small triangular strengthening pieces to the corners.

    You can also bolt through the bottom plate into the floor panel ( above the petrol tank so take care )

    Make sure the welds are done well ( I found a place that makes brackets for kit car seatbelts )

    The fun bit is fitting it inside the side cupboard ( normally involves taking the cupboard apart and building it around the steel box section - but this does then mean that it is nearly invisible when fitted.
     

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  14. Baysearcher

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    I appreciate that if you're in a proper crash in a bay you're probably dead anyway, but I really can't see that holding up in a crash.
     
  15. Yup, for maximum protection you should extend the base plate completely across the floor and up into the other side fixings, but to be completely frank take a look at the actual fittings and ask yourself about the strength of the inner steel panel the fixing nuts are welded to!


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  16. Baysearcher

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    The forces on the original fixings are applied almost directly to them, whereas on your version they're pulled from much further from the structural part. Crap description I know but I get pivots / fulcrums etc mixed up!
     
  17. Very true. I guess that's why I was advised to also bolt the base plate down into a reinforced spreader above the petrol tank - it doesn't solve the diagonal twist force but does help stop the entire bracket moving forward. I know it's not perfect but it's better than no belt or just a lap belt - or when I was little a length of parachute webbing across the entire seat width! You've made me wonder now about my ford split rear seat with a centre belt that just comes off the top centre of the split rear seat - only anchored by a seat locking pin at the side - the seat back must take some lateral force loading in an impact? Now I'm thinking noting is safe........


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  18. Baysearcher

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    What you've done is probably make the best of what is there to be fair!
    I wouldn't really want to be in a big crash in one that's for sure!
     
  19. Lazy Andy

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    No good if you've bolted your furniture thru the seat belt mount!!

    If I were doing this, I'd investigate triangulating the forces back past the spare wheel and then braced against the original mounts.... but I'm an architect, not an engineer :)
     
  20. Gingerbus

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    You could get a couple of these instead, although I don't know if they do both sides:
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