Scared yet?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Soggz, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. Me too!
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  2. matty

    matty Supporter

    Sister in laws just getting over it and l know 3 others that have it.
     
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  3. 96 confirmed cases in Vale of Glamorgan. I’m scared for my daughter and ten year old grandson. She insists on doing our shopping, but has to take the boy with her as she’s a single mom.
     
  4. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Hi Matty. How bad were they?
     
  5. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    No. Google ‘viral load’.
     
  6. matty

    matty Supporter

    They have been lucky, they have not been too bad, they had a fever for couple of days plus normal flu like symptoms and are slowly getting back on their feet
     
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  7. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Ok I did....I don’t get the relevance as its apparently the number of virus cells in a persons body.

    Herd immunity is a statistical exercise, in the early days of an infection 1 person gives it to 3, they in turn can give it to three each, each of those three in turn infect three and so on. Eventually the first person has fewer people people to infect as more people have had it, eventually it runs out of people that haven’t had it and it dies as each hosts immune system fights it or they die.

    The viral load of each person dictates their survivability I guess, but they are binary in the herd principle, they have it and can infect others or don’t and can potentially catch it.


    My comment remains....the more people that have it around you eventually means you have less change of catching it, you just need to avoid carriers in interim. Being one in many that haven’t had it makes you a higher risk of catching it.

    So the more the better if the herd principle stands.


    I have reservations as it fails if a person can catch it twice or it mutates...but then it all comes academic.
     
  8. Wasn't herd immunity Dominic Cummings plan?
     
  9. I think it was a Frank Zappa album.
     
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  10. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Note sure - it sounds the sort of caper that poor man's Mengele might pull. To be fair, I don't actually know.

    I think someone else posted it on here - the theory is sound, but the application is only really safe when get ahead of the curve with vaccination/immunization protocols.....I don't really know much about that other than 'this' version involved allowing everyone to get the full blown version.

    Don't be surprised to see people deliberately exposed in tranches over the next few months to get things moving again...no idea how they do that.....maybe make all the people with first name starting with an A, then B etc etc. go and hug a lot, get ill, then be un- infectionable as it were, and so on.

    I'm not suggesting that's a sound theory - but the current end game is four fold:
    • Find a cure
    • Bolster critical care capabilities
    • Expose in tranches and pray you can't get it twice
    • Find something that negates the impact on the worse affected i.e. some form of intermediary that makes it survivable for the huge majority so they don't need critical care.

    No idea which one wins - but one or two have to.....

    And yes, I probably did invent a word and used bullet points.

    Powerpoint slides to follow.
     
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  11. They was saying on tv about it makes you loose taste and smell .This happed to me when I was ill in late jan , I’m ok I think so maybe I’m a survivor ?
     
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  12. Mooo Ahh!
     
  13. Dazza

    Dazza Eyebrow not high brow

    were they tested as positive ?
     
  14. KTjivedubbin works in two hospitals ,I'm scared from what she tells me , she's scared ,all the NHS staff are stressed and on edge
     
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  15. This is a huge risk, i saw a Spanish doctor on the news basicly saying they were having to Triage patients and decide who would get a ventolator and who would probably die and it was taking a huge psychological toll on them. :(
     
  16. Is that the one who said they were giving priority to younger people :confused:
     
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  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

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  18. And they do nice chocolate . It’s a good way of boosting help in the nhs fa free and making people desperate for work thou huh .
    Had an e mail smorning telling people not to eat pork in tins as they may carry the corona virus !
    But don’t worry it’s only spam . I’ve got coats thanks :oops:
     
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  19. Interesting read @zedders , it looks like a lot of poorly worked out statistics as usual and a lot of confusion between commonality and causality.:thinking:
     
  20. Something I’ve noticed , that it appears that the insects , wasps and bees have been listening to the news and are coming inside :eek:
     

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