Rear brakes what to change

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by burnzdog, May 25, 2015.

  1. Well I inherited this problem so its always a learning curve. When I eventually get the drum off I can decide what can stay and what needs replacing.
     
  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It must come off and it will come off, it's just a matter of getting more and more determined until it does.
    At a pinch, you might get a clouting screwdriver though the backing plate onto the drum, but only at a fairly useless angle for clouting.
     
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  3. Yep Ill try it. thanks for the tip
     
  4. Ive possibly asked you this before as i often find myself asking it to find people are a long way away but where are you located burnzdog
    If its sub 100 miles ill pop over and help you out but you will have to feed me fish and chips
     
  5. Too far for you Paradox but thats very good of you too offer - thank you.
     
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  6. Don't bother trying to use a screwdriver to turn the adjusters if they're seized. Use a punch and hammer. And spend a bit of time working out which way to turn them to make certain you're not tightening the shoes. Slacken both adjusters right back, then wiggle the drum off:)
     
  7. Think of the drum as my ex , and beat the hell out of it , its an ancient story , and the only solution , seriously .
     
  8. Not saying your Ex helped but I did beat the hell out of it and off it popped.

    Few pics of the inside. What you think shoes look pretty worn but have nothing to compare with.

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  9. shoes are shagged ,well done for getting it off...:thumbsup:
     
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  10. Thanks ! I hope she felt it ,,,,its the only way
    New wheel cylinders ,
    Pads of course , , get a hardware kit .they are cheap .
    Spray the break line the night before so it comes of ,and spray the adjusters . Work them
    Free with a vise grip , sand the drum
    . Your backing plate looks good ,!
    Paint everything with a rust killer black . By brush ,,,
    Ok!
     
  11. Glad you said that because I thought they looked pretty fooked too.

    The big beast of a bit in the middle what do I need to remove it breaker bar and 45mm socket?

     
  12. You break kit that includes everything?
    I was thinking of just changing shoes.

     
  13. Yeah you could do that harwares o.k.
    But".........
    Change the wheel cylinders , dont be fooled . , !!!
    They are junk junk junk now . Old as hills,, and a tener each .
    Take the rubber boot off and youll see ,,,,,
    Sand and paint protect ....
     
  14. Change the whole shebang. About £60 but well worth it.
     
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  15. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Unless you've been squirting stuff in there the cylinder is leaking - peel back the rubber covers - if there's fluid, they are leaking, they should be bone dry.
    One shoe is really worn the other not so. Possibly due to leaky cylinder.
    What they said, it wouldn't hurt to change the lot, the parts are cheap really.
    What's the drum like?
     
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  16. From where Andy?

     
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  17. VW Heritage. Do a kit that includes shoes, pads, cylinders, adjusters, springs, plates. Sure it's not too much.
     
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  18. The spring clip for the star adjusters in the picture look missing too, you'll need them for when you've got them freed off and adjusting again.
     
  19. They go between the shoe and adjuster screw?

     
  20. No they fix into the square part at the very bottom of the housing for your star adjusters, just a bit bent spring steel that catches into the stars to stop them moving on their own, sorry can't do a link thing for you, hopefully somebody else will.
     

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