power steering

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by S1mon, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. interesting views on power steering ,
     
  2. You done any bays yet?
     
  3. i wondered if anyone on tlb has power steering, and there thoughts on it ,

    ( from what ive read it seems mixed , but like owning an old vw camper , you dont know what its like until youve taken the plunge , or at least dipped your toe in so to speak )
     
  4. Just watched your vid on bookface. and see you have done one at least already. Strange that I was discussing you with a mate from Bolton a couple of days ago. Im pretty sold on the idea but would love to see one in the flesh before attacking mine!
     
  5. The best steering cars I've owned have had no power steering. They are also the ones you have to drive correctly, as taught in the old days - always steer when moving slowly, never when stationary.
     
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  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    My view is - The Mrs would like it, the cost when I enquired was stupid money, The motors are easily available and they can do it in a day, I am not going to mention the company but the profit margin was about 85% £1200, nah - do it myself for about £120 and two days faffing.
     
  7. anything you do to a bay ( steering wise ) can be changed back to stock in 2 hours, without leaving any clues behind, so its not the end if you dont gel with it ( never happened ),, best thing is to have a go in something with it on , it will give you a good idea,
     
  8. Ive messaged you - if you can come back to me on prices it would be appreciated.
    Ta
     
  9. £1200 thats a bit strong , did it include fitting and a bonus week in turkey for two 1/2 board :D
     
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  10. Poptop2

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    Do you know what - I truly wanted to take it up and get it done by them when they were telling me about it, then they told me the price, I just said " mate you're having a larf and put the phone down" I had been pricing up bits and working out how to do it myself and was prepared for maybe £450 650 maybe plus vat but when he said they sometimes used s/h motors too I just took a walk, ok new motors are very dear and there is a fair bit of fabrication so I suppose the £1200 price was reasonable. but motors always LOOK new?

    The last motor I enquired about ( corsa from a local scrap yard with swap back option ) £45!
     
  11. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    What sort of cost are we talking then; drive in drive out?
     
  12. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    Ps - my point is - I don't think for one moment they used new motors btw!
     
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  13. The last motor I enquired about ( corsa from a local scrap yard with swap back option ) £45![/quote]

    try and stay away from the corsa motor ( they are very strong and work well ) but are a bulky , and stick out abit on the bay columns, ( corsa are ok on t25 behind the cowling ), once youve done it you will be well happy,

    just a quick note,, if your van drives straight and the play in the steering system is negligible, then you will be sweet,,, but if its a vague wanderer, then try and sort those issues out 1st :thumbsup: also work out what your going to do with the horn ( if its a centre push )
     
  14. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    try and stay away from the corsa motor ( they are very strong and work well ) but are a bulky , and stick out abit on the bay columns, ( corsa are ok on t25 behind the cowling ), once youve done it you will be well happy,

    just a quick note,, if your van drives straight and the play in the steering system is negligible, then you will be sweet,,, but if its a vague wanderer, then try and sort those issues out 1st :thumbsup: also work out what your going to do with the horn ( if its a centre push )[/quote]


    Cheers MK2 .My bays spot on re steering personally I am well pleased with it and it drives like my 7 year old one I had back in the day so no worry's there atm.

    My other thoughts are about the wear on tyres etc, the parking thing is what my Mrs wants it for and the extra strain on tyre walls will be a lot because she like most will just yank it into tight spots?

    Steering coupling - I have always thought this the weak link when in a tight spot and seeing how many cappy ones are splitting I have begun to think the ps would soon find fault in them.
     

  15. Cheers MK2 .My bays spot on re steering personally I am well pleased with it and it drives like my 7 year old one I had back in the day so no worry's there atm.

    My other thoughts are about the wear on tyres etc, the parking thing is what my Mrs wants it for and the extra strain on tyre walls will be a lot because she like most will just yank it into tight spots?

    Steering coupling - I have always thought this the weak link when in a tight spot and seeing how many cappy ones are splitting I have begun to think the ps would soon find fault in them.[/quote]

    Does the steering coupling need to be flexible? Just a thought!
     
  16. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    Does the steering coupling need to be flexible? Just a thought!

    Pretty certain it does Dicky?
     
  17. correct , the weak link in the chain is the rubber joint , but if yours is in good order it will be fine ( always make sure you fabricated joints are stronger than the weakest one on the vehicle and your sweet ) as for when the other 1/2 drives it,, dont worry its all upto the job ( thats providing its all in reasonable order )

    your only putting the same stain / force on the steerring set up as you normally would,,, its just the input force you need to apply has been reduced ( with most "eps"systems turned up full it can reduce the input needed by upto 80% )
     
  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    yes but people tend to steer without moving the vehicle when they have power steering - you should have seen the mess of my inner tyre walls on my 3 year old Xtype when I first mot'ed it, I had taken it for a blast out as it was diesel before taking it in to clear the exhaust etc - well fast for quite few miles, when it was on the ramp the mot man called me over and said I should take a look - they were reasonably new tyres and close to the wheel rim massive cracks which you couldn't see from the ground if you looked, they were well dangerous and it caused by the ps. jag sort of admitted this later - they said heavy motor tight, spots etc,
     
  19. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Moderator

    That said the van is a lot lighter on the front end than the jag was?
     
  20. Poptop2

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    I would be happy to let someone fit a eps unit for me - a secondhand one - for about £450 maybe and I mean maybe 500 at a push but other than that I am happy to do my own, I think a price like that would get lots of bay owners thinking of it too!

    Just my opinion!
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2013

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