Looking at campers? When you've finished Before looking at the interior, laughing at the choice of curtains and planning how much better you'd make it look and admiring the shiney paint, to avoid accidentally falling in love with it dive underneath. That's right UNDERNEATH. I know it's dirty, I know it might be wet on the ground and I know you have a bad back, but honestly LOOK UNDERNEATH FIRST. When a minger comes in to the workshop, by now it's owners have put shiney alloy wheels on, eyelids, a sun screen, roof racks and all. They've started to notice the paint is a bit bubbly and think it's about time to have someone look it over. Before looking the typical conversation goes like this. Bare in mind I'm nosey. How long have you had it? We got it last spring and it's been great fun all last summer etc etc How much did you pay if you don't mind me asking? £8,500 What do you think? I'll have a proper look first but it looks ok for the money at a glance. Did you take someone with you who knows about these old buses? No, but we looked at a few that looked worse and were more money so this one seemed like a good buy. Did you look underneath? No. Really? It had 12 months MOT and we wouldn't know what we're looking at/for anyway. Hmmmmm. Looky, looky, looky... I'm afraid it needs a complete restoration - look at this, that and the other. It should look like this (show 'em a good one). Now I have a look underneath and do indeed get a bit dirty, but a piece of cardboard does the job if it's wet, it doesn't take long really. If you don't know what you're looking for/at don't worry about that. You're looking for welded on patches, underseal on top of mud, underseal like christmas cake icing, holes, patches on patches... or hopefully nice clean lines. If it looks like this: Please don't buy it - unless you like welding and know what you're doing of course. If you're cheeky, have a scrape. I scraped this with a bendy thin blunt scraper and it made holes with no effort. I wasn't trying to make holes, no jabbing or stabbing, I was removing underseal. More on that bit later. This one already bought but I had to adjust the handbrake for customer. It kept jamming on because the cable was frayed. The cables wouldn't come out to replace. Stay with me, I'll get to the point. Belly pans - if it has them, are the belly pans WELDED on? How would you know? Because there are no bolts or screws holding them on. Simple. That's ALL three pans. On our example, the side pans were bolted on. I'd removed one earlier to run a pipe and found nice neat chassis patches typical of repairs after moving the pans, original floor and supports in good condition. Nothing to alarm. Back to the handbrake cable. It was jamming a few feet into the conduit where it's within the space between the centre pan and the floor. There was a 1" bung in the pan - good stuff - someones waxoyled? I pulled it out and lying right over the hole was the heater tube. This is it later. That'll be why the heating didn't work then! So no choice but to cut the pan off to get to the conduit. Here's what I saw. Pic is looking forwards at the crossmember and right hand main chassis rail. Remember I'm just trying to adjust the handbrake. It get's worse... more in a moment, please don't post yet.