How to fit a Cobra Alarm in a Late Bay window

Discussion in 'How To' started by Chrisradioman, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. I used to be a dealer for Cobra & let me tell you they are the best alarms on the market, there are other good ones too. Toad is good but we did have a couple of faulty ones returned. Clifford are awsome but very complicated & its easy to make a mistake. Cobras never go wrong & you can buy every part separate easily. You can't go wrong with them. I have chosen a 7928 this is a Cat 1 alarm with ultrasonic sensors & it is compact which means the alarm is built into the siren which has a back up battery built in.
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    The first thing to do is to find a suitable place for the siren. It is water tight so can be fitted anywhere. Its always best to keep away from heat & moisture though so I have fitted it on the LHS front next to the headlight bowl.
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    The next thing to do is start the wiring, there are three wires sticking out partway up the loom there is a good reason for this however it is not necessary for us to use all of them as my Bus does not have central locking The black wire I soldered a tag on & conected it to the other earths on the headlight bowl.
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    I pulled one of the transmitter cables through the loom to exit at the same place as the ones I mentioned earlier & these will go up the LHS A pillar.
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    Next I have loomed the cable up as far as the fuse box following the path of the original wires.
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    Next I carried on the looming letting the green/red (+15V (ignition)) cable out & the red (+30(+12V perminant)) wires exit behind the fuse box these will be connected latter.
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    Now the wires were loomed up to behind the instrument cluster, following the original wires.
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    Next I fitted the immobiliser unit, this should be mounted out of sight & fitted where it is hard to get too. As the top is off my dash I can see easily where to put it. I have chosen to screw it to the steering support bracket.
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  2. On the immobiliser all of the cables are black to make interference after installation almost imposible. all the cables have print on the end & once cut the unit is useless to anyone. I connected the wire with code printed on it to the green wire coming from the siren with code printed on that.
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    The next thing to do is connect up the two yellow wires these are the feeds to the indicators. These are green/black & white black on the VW & can be found coming up from the steering column in a loom with lots of thick wires. These can be connected up either way around it doesn't matter.
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    The next thing to do is fit the LED, there are lots of places to fit this but I have chosen to use the blanking plug on the instrument panel.
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  3. I used a test light with one end grounded to look for a perminant 12V suppy (+30) I found a thick yellow one above the fusebox. Note the Snake's wedding, I think most 30 year old VW's will look like this (or worse)
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    I spliced the red wire for the alarm into it by baring back the insulation wro=apping the cable around it & soldering the joint. Don't use connectors or scotch locks or you'll get troble in the future.
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    Next I cut the newly installed red wire installed an in-line 16A fuse. Make sure you use a fuse or it could all end intears if the alarm ever goes faulty.
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    Next I soldered the Black wire from the LED to the White/black from the alarm.
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    Next I drilled a 16mm hole in the dash for the touch recepticle. I chose that possition because there was a burn hole there so I thought I'd hide it otherwise I would have put it somewhere else. I didn't fit that dodgy switch below. Thats going when I get around to it:-
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    Out of the back of the touch receptor there are two cables, the yellow one needs to be connected to earth, I have chosen the multy connector on the back of the clocks.
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    The other wire is Red/Green, this is connected to the pink wire (don't ask me I didn't design the unit)
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  4. I checked at the loom coming up form the ignition switch for a +15 (ignition live) that stayed live whilst cranking & again there was a thick black one I cut this & turned on the ignition no dash lights (thats what I wanted)
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    I soldered to this one of the immobiliser black wires with "+15" written on it (double check before cutting, I always check twice, then read the cable as I am about to discard the end)
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  5. I double checked that the end I soldered to was still live with the ignition on then soldered one of the black wires with "2" printed on it to the same place.
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    I then followed the other end of the wire & pulled it out of the loom cutting out 20CM which I discarded, you have to cut off at least 10CM.
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    I soldered the other black wire marked "2" to this end this is one of the immobiliser cuts & I have no ignition now as a result.
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    Back to the immobiliser, there are 2 earth cables marked "-ve" I conected one behind the clocks to the multi connection:-
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    & one to the headlight bowl, don't connect them to the same place:-
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    While in this location I conected the blue/pink wire from the alarm to the door pin swich cable:-
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    I then conected the red wire from the LED I fitted earlier to the thick red wire in the inition harness, this is +30 (live at all times)
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    Then I checked for a starter circuit the black/red thick cable becomes live only when cranking, so this is the one, I cut this & soldered one of the black immobiliser cables marked "1" to it:-
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    Next I cut out 20CM off the cable & soldered the other black cable marked "1" to the other end of the cut, this is the other immobiliser cut now I have no starter:-
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    This is the bit I cut out:-
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  6. Now the car wont start & I have no ignition, but when I disarm the immobiliser they are reconected internally in the immobiliser & then it will work. There is one last wire on the immobiliser marked "+15" don't connect to the same place as the other one, I conected this to the Green/red wire coming from the alarm wiring, this is the ignition sense wire & its important not to conect this to the car wiring
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    Now the hard bit fishing the cable down the A pillars, I always use 6 core telephone cable as it is stiff, my roof lining is out so it makes life easier.
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    Push the cable down the hole in the A-pillar:-
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    Pull it out of the bottom, it’s not a nice job it can be frustrating & I found it easier to remove the Door pin switch.
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    Use this cable to pull a thinner one up:-
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    Then pull the ultrasonic senor cable down, make sure the tape is not too thick & don't force it, you'll break it, also make sure you get the right colour one down. I have used Red on the RHS but it doesn't mater:-
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    At the same time pull in a blue cable for the rear door switch your going to fit later, solder this to the blue wire that comes from the alarm.:-
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    Plug in the matching plug & socket:-
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    Drill the bracket attached to the sensor with a 3.5 mm drill bit:-
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    Remove one of the press studs & fit this to the bracket as pictured:-
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    Fit the press stud back where it was sandwiching the sensor in place:-
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    The other side of the bus solder the blue wire with the black sleeve to a piece of blue wire (it doesn't have to be blue but I like blue!)
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    Repeat the fishing process on the LHS not forgetting to plug in the white pair:-
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    Then fit the other sensor:-
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    At the B-pillar where the sliding door closes there is a plastic grommet remove this & you can fit a door sensor to it ( there is one in the kit) the blue wire then has to be fished down here:-
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    That’s it for now the only things left are to get the blue wires to the sliding door for a pin switch, to the tailgate & I'm also going to protect the engine lid. I'll update you all later. :D
     
  8. I dropped one of the blue Cables down the RHS B-Pillar & fished it out where VW very thoughtfully left a hole:-
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    Then I fitted a crimp on Spade connector & pluged it in to a door pin switch, my finger is there to hold it on as I hadn't screwed it in place at this point.
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  9. Decided then to fit a Cobra alarm in my new Bay, its a modular system not like the compact I fitted before, which means the system is split into component parts easier when space is tight:-
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    First wired the siren:-


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    Then I started stripping the dash:-
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    Then I drilled 2 holes for the siren:-
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    Then bolted it up:-


    Next job was to fish cables down the A-pilars for the ultra sonics:-
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    Then fit them:-
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    these 5 cables are for the central locking so I'll tuck these away in case I need them in the future:-
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    these 5 are for a pager & other optional extras that I am not useing so I'll tuck these away as well:-
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  10. Pulled the radio so I can get to the dash bolts above it:-
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    Removed the dash top:-
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    Mounted the control module & the immobiliser:-
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    Added the 2 wires from the alarm siren (black & Yellow/blue:-
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    Wired in the indicator circuits (Yellow to the black/green & Yellow to the black/white):-
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    Next connected the red from the siren to the red from the control module, then fitted an in-line fuse holder then soldered the cable to the main +30 red from the ignition switch:-
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  11. Next job was to solder the white cable to the "code" wire from the immobilizer:-
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    Next cut the ground cables from the block & wired these to 2 different earth points, I used the headlight bowl & the multi earth point behind the dash:-
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    At this point my M8, borrowed my camera for 10 mins, turned out to be about 5 hrs so I'll take some more pics tomorrow.
    But at the moment I've got the alarm & immobilizer working, the pin switch on the driver door wired up & the cables into the back of van ready to protect the boot, engine bay, sliding door etc.
     
  12. I found the central position between the 2 gauges & drilled a pilot hole, then I drilled it out to 10mm, I then had to strip off the back of the clocks & drill an exit hole for the wire in the bottom of the pod:-
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  13. cool, are these known by insurance companies, most ask if you have a clifford/toad etc
     
  14. I've now completely finished in the cab area so moved on to the sliding door & one thing lead to another.
    I pulled the cable down into the B-pillar for the pin switch, the pin switch I had has 2 terminals, so I thought It would be nice if the sliding door brought on a light, so I pulled in another cable.
    Next I thought I'd fetch a fused live up from the dash, then I decided I'll get the feed from the existing cab light & I'd run another earth down to a switch on the dash.
    Confused yet? Here are a few pics to explain:-
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    the fish wire:-
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    The door pin striker, not all buses have these:-
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    The earth to the new light position from the pin switch:-
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    The live feed from the light & I've just realised looking at this that that brown wire shouldn't be there it needs to be at the new light position.
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    Here are the live feed (red) from the cab light the pin switch earth feed (blue) & the speaker wire from the radio, I just need an earth feed now from the cab switch
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  16. Used some fiberglass rods to feed the cables down the roof cavaty of the bus:- [​IMG]

    The cables came out right at the back:-
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    This is the earth feed to the new light possition, this will connect to a switch on the dash:-
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    As well as this cable to connect up I've also got to connect up my 2 rear speakers, they are already there but previously were fed by one cable off the right hand channel. I've also got to somehow connect a pin switch to the tailgate & the engine lid.

    Just so people know I got an alarm:-
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  17. Found a pin switch location near the tailgate hinge:-
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    But had to remove the overhead locker to get to it:-
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    Fitted the pin switch, then I realised the hinge won't reach it. I removed the side locker:-
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    Then before I fitted it all back I pumped Waxoil down inside the roof:-
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  18. Awesome write up, k+. What is the new alarms' model number?
     
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  20. Awesome, great step by step instructions for a non electrical person like myself.
    Now bookmarked many thanks ;D
     

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