Yes I know this is a 'Late Bay' forum but I've checked out the T25 forum and it's well... dull! I feel much happier here! and although my search has taken a twist I wondered if you might all be able to help? It's been a hard decision to 'bin' the idea of a bay as it's a real head and heart one but ultimately I want something I can jump into and go - T4/5/Brazilians are just too expensive so T25 it has to be. I don't understand with the T25s the development of them i.e. all of the later ones - '85 on seem to be hard top BUT the missus really likes the Westy pop top AND the idea of water cooled - but did they actually do this combo or are all water cooled hard tops? Starting to do my head in! Any knowledge/help would be appreciated.