Diesel cars petition

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Razzyh, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Petition: Hold a public inquiry into the decision to incentivise diesel cars & its effects

    In 2001 the government decided to link car tax (VED) to CO2 emissions. In 2002 company car tax also became emissions-based. People were encouraged by such incentives to buy diesel cars, yet owners of even relatively new diesels now face draconian extra taxes, parking surcharges, even effective bans.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/228534
     
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  2. What's the point?
     
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  3. I've signed.

    If it gets 10,000 signatures the government has to respond, if 100,000 then:

    "Will a petition with 100,000 signatures automatically be debated?
    The Petitions Committee will take the threshold of 100,000 signatures as a starting point when it considers which petitions should be debated.

    But sometimes the Committee might not put forward a petition for debate if it’s got over 100,000 signatures – for example, if the same subject has recently been debated or if a debate is going to happen soon. If that’s the case, we’ll tell you how you can find out more about parliamentary debates on the issue raised by your petition."

    My personal view is it'll get 100,000+ and if it gets debated then they'll be all the guff about 'Global Warming' etc. and nothing will happen.
    So the net effect will be nil except to take some of their time that might be used to come up with another yet faddish idea.
     
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  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Signed and shared on FB!
     
  5. Jules65

    Jules65 Supporter

    As we own a diesel T5 I have signed it.
     
  6. ^this. Can't honestly see what the point is. What outcome are they hoping for?
     
  7. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    I think the point is the government pushed plebs into buying diesels and are now punishing those exact users for doing so
     
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  8. Signed! Only takes a second so worth a shout

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  9. Same will happen when they’ve forced people to go electric , bit like paper bags , are they growing enough trees. Get rid politicians sorted .
     
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  10. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    17 years later....
     
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  11. scrooge95

    scrooge95 Moderator and piggy bank keeper

    You may be right, but without trying, we never get anywhere. Maybe nothing changes, but maybe it does. Peaceful protest, standing up for what you believe.
    That’s the point.
     
  12. The whole point of these petitions being brought in is to make people think that the government listen. So it has to be debated in parliament. Who has to attend? What time does it need to be debated? The answers are a) nobody and b) usually when everybody has gone home.
     
  13. They weren't "pushed" by anyone. They bought diesels (myself included), because they do 55mpg or more. Presumably the "plebs" will be willing to give back any incentives they were offered.

    Really can't see the point. What outcome are you expecting? I can't think of one.
     
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  14. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    “Pushed” perhaps not, but incentivised in such a way that it was almost forced, everyone at the time knew it was tosh, now they’re reversing it and all the the name of ecology, I’m
    Sure a few high up people are making lots of dollar out of it , why not just ban commuting , no emissions then, pay everyone £500 a week to stay home, I can bet 10,s of thousands of people pass each other commuting to work the same jobs in the opposites hometown
     
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  15. Good points, but will a public enquiry do anything to encourage this?
     
  16. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    No because it’s skewed towards their own goals
     
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  17. Barry Haynes

    Barry Haynes I dance in leopard skin mankini’s

    Ban all diesel taxis in East Grinstead , I have a northern petrol cab :rolleyes:
     
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  18. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    If the goal now is to reduce the number of polluting diesels on the road by making it prohibitively expensive to run them is that a bad thing? I just don’t see the point of this petition. And I run a diesel, albeit in France.
     
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  19. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    I think the goal is to try and make the government shoulder some accountability and responsibility for WHY there are millions of diesels on the roads:
    They told people to buy them.
    People bought them.
    Now they’re penalising people for buying them..
    It’s not rocket science.
     
  20. Who was in power at the time?
     
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