Autonomous car sir...?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by art b, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I think that particular situation would trap a good percentage of humans if the vehicle they were following was a big van.

    However today I passed two straight line tail end shunts on the motorway, one of which probably would have been a non event in an autopilot type car.

    But the other one explains why the autonomous cars also need to" look" behind and decide how hard to brake. A 4 door hatchback car with a truck that tailended it with the front of the truck roughly as far in as the heads of any rear seat passengers. The correct call may well gave been to hit the car in front and give the truck more room to stop...

    I find myself glancing in the rear view mirror aa I start emergency braking to decide whether to back off on the brakes a bit.


    The trouble with things like autopilot and other safety systems is that they tend to either work well and keep you safe or fail in a way that leaves you very dead.. like following lane markings straight into lane dividers made of concrete where motorways diverge in a real world Tesla incident..it accelerated while driving smack into concrete in a very fatal accident where the battery pack caught fire several times over the next five days.
     
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  3. matty

    matty Supporter

    A driving instructor I use to know use to say.
    The best safety device that could be fitted to car was a big spike in the middle of the steering wheel.

    All these drivers aids and over to top radios do is take your mind off the thing you should be concentrating on
     
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  4. My driving instructer was a Brummie bloke called Jim, who used to be an ambulance driver in Birmingham. He used to regale with stories of his best gruesome accidents he’d attended. Certainly focussed your mind...
     
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  5. Dazza

    Dazza Eyebrow not high brow

    I’m all for this type of technology as a safety aid to supplement and come to rescue when our own ability fails us.

    I can’t ever see me sat in car that drives me and actually relax..

    You ought to see how twitchy I am when the missus is driving even when I’ve had ten pints of anethsetic
     
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  6. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Its like the well publicised Uber incident where a cyclist died. The Volvo car and its OEM driver assistance safety kit by itself would probably have seen the pedestrian and avoided her.
    The autonomous Uber software was dialled back because it kept stopping or swerving for empty paper bags.
     
  7. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    I had the brake assist turned off on my C Class as it was ridiculously sensitive.
     
  8. Ive just had a jag epace for two weeks on hire. Adaptive cruise etc. Scared the life out of me in traffic. It left a gap big enough for others to pull from side roads into then didn’t come off the gas quick enough then braked really hard of its own doing meaning the cars behind couldn’t work out what it /I was doing. Much smoother and safer switched off.
     
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  9. :D
     
  10. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Nah, that was the 3 series!
     
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  11. I don’t need it ,the tells me when to brake ,change lanes etc
     
  12. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Yep...my golf had adaptive cruise that you couldn't turn off entirely...you'd follow a car on say a fast A road, and when that car moved over to turn left, you moved right the effin car would slam in the breaks for you....used to ruin my reading/watching nature programs involving naked females.
     
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  13. I hear Tesla are working on the "Cabbie" plug-in for their systems. Simply press a button and it takes you the long way round, while telling you who they've had in the back of the cab recently :thumbsup:
     
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  14. With a fragrance of breath lady...:)
     
  15. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    Bazza doesn't tell you who he had in the back of the cab, he shows you the video ;)
     
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  16. Another dilemma for autonomous systems is the scenario where injury or fatality is inevitable - swerving to avoid mother and baby for example leads to head on with artic truck probably killing car passenger. Do you go off least number of people dying, oldest go first? Will the auto drive just freeze up and pile in at full speed?
     
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  17. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I think the point everyone is missing is that all vehicles being autonomous is the plan, then barriers between pavement and carriageway would mean no one gets into an issue in the first place.

    Autonomy is for all vehicles....self driven stuff will get set aside roads like the steam trains do now.
     
  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Can't wait myself. The driving standards of automated cars can't possibly be as bad as humans, can it?

    Will it get angry and slam it's brakes on in front of you. Get busy texting while doing 80 on the motorway. Masturbate on the motorway ( yes I've seen that a lot ) tailgate. Flash headlights to get past. Join the motorway at 45mph and get angry when you don't move over to let them on.......
     
  19. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Rant over! :oops:
     
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