Aug 72 - Aug 73 late bay discussion. 73 model year.

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  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

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    My point/question is that the filler cap along with other 72/73 features ended production in June/Aug 73. doors could be changed but with a filler cap and other features the door should be one with a key in the lock.
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  2. Joker

    Joker

    At least 2 of mine have been Emden buses. Both 72's were. Can't remember on the others. From what I can gather it was to cope with offload for US market, it was a beetle factory. It's signified by an 'E' on the chassis/m-code numbers
    :)
     
    Joker, Apr 7, 2014
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  3. brothernumberone

    brothernumberone

    Part of the problem is us lot saying 'this or that changed for '73 or '76' or whatever when I guess a lot of stuff was actually phased in as and when old parts were used up.
    Two I've seen recently are a really early crossover which had factory early flat front arches. I had a good look and it was defo not a repro arch.
    The second is a late cross over I've got in at the mo which has got a late steering box and no visible signs of chassis mods, so I guess they swapped to the late 'box before the official start of the '73 model year.
     
    brothernumberone, Apr 7, 2014
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  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Your bus is in the category of this thread I know that. The steering column thing seemed to go on a bit longer as you say. I wonder when they changed that?
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  5. matt

    matt

    Emden production ran from late 67-april 73.
    It stopped there due the oil crisis and economic recession in Germany
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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  6. brothernumberone

    brothernumberone

    My '72 is an Emden van. We should start an Emden built clique:)
    I thought Emden was just to allow for demand, the early '70's had the highest build numbers with '72 the most built in one year. Emden only made T2s for a few years, I think it stopped in '73?
     
    brothernumberone, Apr 7, 2014
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  7. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    So - the point I am making is - 72 - 73 models were distinct in so much as they were all the same but slightly different from early crossovers and full late bays. I think this is becoming apparent. The fact is they are not parts bin motors but a one year production run from Aug 72 until Aug 73. The difficulty I am having is identifying exactly what the correct parts used were. was it a late steering box they used or an early. why did they use the steering column after Aug 73, was that a phased use up of parts that were tried in Aug 72 and proved unreliable? I am not sure about xover arches, I thought they were flared from the beginning but it serves no purpose to the point of this thread tbh, just something that we would like to know I suppose.
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  8. brothernumberone

    brothernumberone

    I thought they were flared also, but this was a really early one, build date was 3rd of aug '71 or something, so a couple of days after the factory started up after holidays I guess. They must have had some early arches left and used them. :)
     
    brothernumberone, Apr 7, 2014
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  9. matt

    matt

    This bit was 73 only too

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    74 models had a flattened join spot welded on.
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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  10. Barneyrubble

    Barneyrubble

    that year was a funny year too it was as said the time of the oil crisis and three day weeks n more in this country too , i remember them well , ive still got my petrol ration book they didnt actually use .
     
    Barneyrubble, Apr 7, 2014
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  11. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Possibly it's difficult to get to the bottom of some oddity's.
    Good point. bb told me that some time ago. :thumbsup:

    72/73 you mean.
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  12. matt

    matt

    Molenaar's spec book says that the fuel cap was deleted from chassis number 2142 000 001 aug 1st. Sliding handle at the same time. It means that a 73 bus is a 1 yr oddity on its own.
    Steering column was changed at 2142 164 060 this included the steering lock
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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  13. Pickles

    Pickles

    @poptop2 I've taken no offence, just find it funny the reaction my little quip provoked.

    Apart from external colour when I got it the bus was pretty much as it left the factory, at least according to the M Plate, bloody convinced me if no one else. Being a US import it was built in Germany on 30/11/71 (no idea which factory) and shipped to New Orleans, apart from the battery tray there has been no welding down on it, I'm happy with it and that's all that matters at least to me.
     
    Pickles, Apr 7, 2014
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  14. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Thank you. So you mean a Aug 72/aug 73 bus. I am just clarifying this for the purposes of this thread and would love a copy Molenaar's spec book. :thumbsup:
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  15. matt

    matt

    No 73 I mean ;)

    Date of manufacture is irrelevant. Model yr is 73.
    My 72 does not have the seams there :)
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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  16. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    It would be nice to clear this up once and for all about the 72 /73 one year production run though, even if it is just for reference or part ordering!
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  17. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    My sept 72 had that join so too have lots of other 72 built that I have looked at :thumbsup:
     
    Poptop2, Apr 7, 2014
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  18. Pickles

    Pickles

    being a bit older I'm not sure I can help in any way

    I do need to go and check ho many screws are holding the headlight rim on though
     
    Pickles, Apr 7, 2014
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  19. matt

    matt

    Thats a 73 model year. I have a oct 67 bay but its a 68
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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  20. matt

    matt

    My point was its another 1 yr only bit that "lates" didn't have :D
     
    matt, Apr 7, 2014
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