Valve guides

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by brothernumberone, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. Evening all!
    I've got a 1641 engine which goes like a train but smokes on deceleration, there's play in the guides and I was thinking of changing them. I've never done this before, always just changed the head, but these seem ok apart from the smoking so thought I might have a go. Has anyone done this? Is it worth bothering with or should I just get new heads?
    Cheers!
     
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  2. Only done my type 4 ones ...very easy ...

    Tap the bottom and screw in a bolt ,using suitable pin punch bash them out ...

    Warm head and I used a specially turned drift and drift new ones in ...make sure they go in square

    I then used new guides to cut seats ...
     
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  3. Did you need to ream them?
     
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  4. No ..I think stateside use precision sized balls to size them tho .. Mine were fine with new valves ....I cut a 3 angle valve Job whilst I was at it as well
     
  5. If the stems are worn what are the seats like?
     
  6. How warm is "warm"?
     
  7. I put them in the oven and stank the house out ..till they was just too hot to hold .i also put the guides in the freezer .
    I made the cutting tools to cut the seats as I never had any and being type 4 one is 8 mm one is 9 plus the inlet is 30 degrees against the 45 exhaust ......I did regrind the valves but replaced with new just to be safe
     
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  8. How hot can you get it whilst the wife is out?

    Joking aside
    If a stem is that worn it wobbles then the valve seats normaly at least need a regrind if not replacing
     
  9. Just a warning, if you have the time get the old guides out before buying new guides.

    They could be oversized, a two of mine were :rolleyes:
     
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  10. type 4 seats are quite big and mine were easily recut square to the guide ..... i`ll post a pic later of the pair of tools i made to cut them .

    i think 1mm is the maximum wobble the valves are allowed
     
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  11. 0.8 on t1 engines according to the manuals. I haven't measured mine yet, but there doesn't seem to be that much movement, visible but not loads.
    What else could cause smoking? How can I tell if the rings are shot?
     
  12. i guess a leak down test would show up rings or valves
     
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