Why do truck drivers...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by snotty, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    That’s not a comparison. That’s just a clapped out van that you probably shouldn’t have taken on the motorway.
    You’re forgetting weight, fuel economy and patience. Why should car drivers have the right to any lane and why is their speed and need to go by more important than ours. It usually isn’t, it’s just indicative of the impatience I see every day. It causes anxt and frustration to everyone.

    A lot of truckers think the job is getting worse as more and more people drive and those that weren’t previously confident or savvy enough to drive on motorway now have satnavs. They still don’t have a clue how to drive on motorways. A common concern amongst us is ‘ everyone seems to have a car licence these days, no one has to have a IQ test to get one. There are an awful lot of idiots with licences on the road today and that little bit of impatience and inexperience is very dangerous to full time road users. The law of averages are against us.

    Patience!
     
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  2. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    By the way you’ve just insulted half a million hard working underpaid truck drivers that make sure your milk is there for your tea in the morning and probably the cup you drink it from. That and every other item in your house probably got there via one of us working 15 hour days up before the crack of dawn and putting up with this all day. You should try it for a week.
     
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  3. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    If only we could get back to the 1950s when most people and freight went by rail, when we had a comprehensive rail network.
     
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  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I noticed they are dismantling all the sidings by the Spitfire/ jaguar works by the side of the M6 at Brum at the moment. There must be miles of track being lifted. I don’t think they should be allowed to remove the rail infrastructure unless it’s for further rail improvement, but I think it’s for housing or shops!
     
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  5. And they also enjoy irritating other road users. Helps pass the time between fry-ups.
     
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  6. :thumbsup: van wasn’t clapped out. It wasn’t very old then. The escort 55 just wasn’t a turbo diesel model.

    I’m not insulting anyone or disrespecting the importance of anyone’s job.

    What I’m saying is it’s actually disrespectful of lorry drivers to arrive at the bottom of a five mile climb and decide to overtake the lorry next to them knowing they only have about a 1mph advantage over the vehicle next to them and knowing full well it will cause all the other road users to have to bunch up behind them when before they pulled out all the other lanes were moving along at 70mph. If I joined the motorway from a slip road at 30mph in front of a truck doing 58mph and just sat there I suspect that mr trucker would be quite happy to express to me his displeasure, but apparently they can do it to everyone else when it suits them.

    My coffeee is lovely by the way, :thumbsup:
     
  7. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    With all due respect. You’re a typical car driver. You don’t seem to be able to take on board what I’ve just explained or even consider the issues we have that I’ve just pointed out. It doesn’t matter to me personally I’ve had 36 years of putting up with all sorts of insults and impatience, but it may help you if you took a moment to put yourself in our shoes.

    And yes you are insulting us, but that’s okay too, we’re well used to it from certain types of car driver.

    But we’re nice guys really :)
     
  8. I’ve corrected that for you. :)
     
  9. Some designs of motorway exit lanes don't help - the one they added to the clockwise M25 at J19 A41 is on an incline that now has the inside lane running for about half a mile, dedicated to exiting the motorway, so HGV's staying on the M25 have to somehow pull out into the parallel right hand lane, where no-one wants to let them out, whilst negotiating all of the traffic that zooms up the inside lane to exit.

    Proper $hite planning.
     
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  10. Hmm, not wishing to start a fight but........
    @Poptop2 can you explain why if there is only a 1mph (ish) advantage between two lorries and lorry two is trying to maintain revs surely he could drop a gear and sit behind lorry one, instead of causing a 3 mile tailback. In the grand scheme of things doesn't the need of the many outweigh the need of 1? I also come from a place of being held up on the M2 (2lane) by two vehicles neither of which would yield to let the extremely high powered and brightly lit patrol car past on its way to a shout.
    I'm not being a txxt I genuinely don't understand the physics of it.
    Also, an awful lot of European highways ban LGV's from anything except lane 1 between certain hours, as they do on the A34 towards Oxford from the 303, so clearly in government thinks it's a good idea, so it must be right.................
     
  11. That was supposed to be the plan, utilise the rail network for freight traffic but the rise of online shopping but paid to it because everyone wants stuff delivered to their doorstep within 24hrs.
     
  12. We still do have a vast network, and huge amounts of freight are still carried by rail.
     
  13. Wow. Government and good idea used in the same sentence. Have you had a little too much sun this weekend?
     
  14. Barry Haynes

    Barry Haynes I dance in leopard skin mankini’s

    I think all lorry drivers wear suspenders whilst driving and are Nancy boys:thumbsup:
     
  15. Im wondering. If a lorry driver pulls out to overtake another lorry, but without the means to execute the over take in a timely manner and in doing so forces other road users to dramatically reduce their speed in that lane, isn’t that driving without due care and attention? After all if you pulled out to over take and forced oncoming traffic to have to alter their speed then I’m sure you’d get points, so why any different for vehicles coming up behind you? I thought you were meant to look in your mirrors before overtaking and only pull out if it’s safe to do so. How can it be safe if the traffic in the other lane is driving at a speed greater than you can maintain. You can’t safely merge into that lane unless they are travelling at a similar speed.

    Nick um I say.
     
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  16. The suspenders make it easier to pee into a Fanta bottle while steering a 40-ton artic with their knees. There’s great skill involved.
     
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  17. Irony, my friend irony.
     
  18. Yes, the highway code states that no action you take should cause another vehicle to alter it's speed or direction.
     
  19. I know.

    I got a great big pile of it in the washing basket to sort out later.
     
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  20. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    in all honesty t how many times have you seen a three mile tailback behind a truck going up an hill. I can’t think of many hill that long. It’s usually half a dozen or so cars and they only have a two minute wait at most. That’s unfortunate if you’re delivering a patient to hospital, but ‘life’ in this day and age on our overcrowded roads.

    Once you drop a gear these high revving engines lose most of their speed and then you really do get tailbacks. They are made to pull at high revs now as they are like most car engines and upgraded by turbos etc to make a smaller engine more powerful, the downsides of that are hills and how you manage the hill. Then the other daft thing about restricting these engines is the economy thing goes out the window as hauliers buy bigger thirstier engines to get up the hills quicker.

    I truly don’t understand the impatience of being slowed for a a mile or two. A car goes by and he’s back up to warp speed in a nano second. It’s just this stupid fast paced stressful life we all seem to lead. Get behind the wheel and Mr Hyde kicks in.

    Crazy and disturbing from where I sit and watch from. I usually forget trucking on my day off as it’s just stress, but I’ve made an exception for this banter thread. Soz
     
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