How to identify your VW baywindow cab door and hinge type thread

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  1. Milky

    Milky Sponsor

    Please scroll down to identify your baywindow door type.


    I have just brought a really nice door for a very reasonable price and I think it's the wrong type !? The inside door button lock is incorporated in the inside door handle and not a button type like mine . So would this be an prototype bay one and can it be used on mine or is there other odd differences? Only consolation it was only 9 miles from my house .
     
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  2. What year is your bus?
     
  3. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    This may help. I stole it off the samba :thumbsup:



    68 only, 2 access holes, pull knob lock, push button outer handle, 15mm pins
    69 only, 2 access holes, lever door lock, 15mm pins
    70-71 1 access hole, lever door lock, 15mm pins
    72-73 riveted vent slide, lever door lock, 15mm pins
    74-75 riveted vent slide, pull knob lock, 15mm pins
    75-76 riveted vent slide, pull knob lock, 8mm pins
    76-M77 welded vent slide, pull knob lock, 8mm pins
    M77-79 welded vent slide, pull knob lock, 8mm pins, Check Strap changed

    1968 only to Ch# 218 220 000
    Lock pull knob by window, push button outer handle

    1968-75 #3 to 215 2 153 712
    15mm pins

    1969-73 Ch# 219 000 001 to 213 2 300 000
    lock moved next to release lever

    1969-79
    outer handle changed to pull lever, at some point key tumbler became not removable

    1972-E76 from Ch# 212 2000 001 to 2162 047 257
    vent introduced in door, rivited slide

    1974-79
    Door lock Pull knob moved back by the window

    M75-M76 215 2 153 713 to 216 2 126 631
    #(2A) transition? 9mm pins, countersunk hinge half

    M76-79 216 2 126 632 to 219 2 300 000
    #2A 9mm pins, threaded hinge half

    1976-79 from 2162 047 257
    Vent slide welded to door instead of riveted.

    M77-79 from Ch# 2172 137 043
    check strap changed



    Hinge Half
    >75 #2 15mm hole Countersunk mounting holes 1975 to 215 2 153 712
    M75-M76 #(2A) transition? 9mm 215 2 153 713 to 216 2 126 631
    M76-79 #2A 9mm 216 2 126 632 to 219 2 300 000

    Hinge Washer
    #6 either to 71 or from 72 ??

    Hinge Pin
    >75 15mm #3 to 215 2 153 712
    1975-79 8mm 215 2 153 713 to 219 2 300 000
    New front door hinges (from 236-2126-632)type2.com

    Ventilation opening
    1972 Ch# 212 2000 001 introduced in door
    1976 from 2162 047 257 Vent slide welded to door instead of riveted.

    Inner door lock
    1968 Door lock Pull knob by the window
    1969-73 Lever door lock moved next to release lever
    1974-77 Door lock Pull knob moved back by the window

    Outer door handle
    1968 push button where key is inserted in middle of handle used to open door
    1969-79 release lever on handle between handle and door cavity now squeezed to open door

    Check Strap
    1968-77 to Ch# 2172 137 042 wire spring with rollers, Strap vertical, Mounting holes ????
    1977 from Ch# 2172 137 043 Nylon insert, Strap now horizontal and flat, Mounting holes ????


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    http://www.jerseylooker.com/FicheDump/EarlyBaywindow/EarlyBay-Main.html

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    http://www.jerseylooker.com/FicheDump/LateBaywindow/LateBay-Main.html

    15mm Hinge halfs. To 75 #2 15mm hole Countersunk mounting holes 1975 to 215 2 153 712
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    M75-M76 transition? 8mm pin countersunk hinge 215 2 153 713 to 216 2 126 631
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    9mm Hinge half attached to door. Requires 8mm pin. 1975-79 215 2 153 713 to 219 2 300 000
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    [Left 15mm pin, countersunk hinge 68-M75][Middle transition hinge? 8mm pin, countersunk hinge M75-M76 ][Right 8mm pin, threaded hinge M76-79]
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    Hinge Washer
    #6 either to 71 or from 72 ?? The parts manuals are in conflict with this one. Either the washers where dropped in 71 or added in72??
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    Early door pillar mount 68-M76
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    Late door pillar mount M76-79
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    Cab door hinge conversion kit. This 8mm cab door hinge pin conversion kit allows the fitting of early and late T2 doors (from T2s made between 1969-1976) to any T2 from 1967ā€“1979.
     
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  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Late door pillar mount M76-79
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    Cab door hinge conversion kit. This 8mm cab door hinge pin conversion kit allows the fitting of early and late T2 doors (from T2s made between 1969-1976) to any T2 from 1967ā€“1979.
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    Check Straps
    1968-77 to Ch# 2172 137 042 wire spring with rollers, Strap vertical, Mounting holes ????
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    1977 from Ch# 2172 137 043 Nylon insert, Strap now horizontal and flat, Mounting holes ????
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  5. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    PS. There's a very handy microfilch link in there ^ too
     
  6. Wow!
     
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  7. This should be moved to the how to section "how to identify your doors"
    Great info
     
  8. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I have made it a sticky in mech n tech. We don't have a specific 'how to' section. I may change the title if @Milky is agreeable to it.
     
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    Poptop2 Administrator

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  10. I thought the folder at the top of the mech tech section was the place for how to items or am I seeing something you don't or is it the beer?(possible excess of "pressed rat and warthog" on Saturday):)
     
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  11. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Yes, just popped on to the laptop. It looks like that section needs some kind of updating. There isn't many views on the topics. Well done. :thumbsup:
     
  12. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I'll leave it here for now.
     
  13. It does seem a bit underutilized considering the vast amount of knowledge on here
     
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  14. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I think it's the positioning of the banner. too high up and above the immediate eye area. People tend to scroll down right away and miss it.
     
  15. Milky

    Milky Sponsor

    1519015270393-1004389873.jpg My door so will look at pics tonight and try to age it ? Thanks for adding this thread
     
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  16. Flakey

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    I do try to remind people of the how to section from time to time :thumbsup:
     
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  17. Milky

    Milky Sponsor

    Well judging by the two access panels and lack of sliding vent I reckons mine's from around the 1969-1970 . Great ! but not the 1974ish era door I am after so if anyone has this type of door for sale I would be very interested. Great site and thanks for all the help everyone.
     
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  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I think it would work better as a sticky in the mech n tech section rather than up out of the way where it is. Iā€™d forgotten we had it tbh
     
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  19. Very informative and useful when it came to sorting out some spare doors and getting `em to fit :thumbsup:

    Good idea to make it a sticky - Many thanks @Poptop2

    :hattip:
     
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  20. When I had them off for painting 6 years back I found that my doors have what I assume is a date stamp on them.

    I think there are other locations where the panels have been stamped similarly.
     
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