Topic: Bus Security (Read 1718 times)

hailfrank · « **on:** Wed 20/01/10, 17:03 »

Post up in here any security devices that you have found that might keep our bus a little safer.

(do not post up here any 'little tricks' you use as scum might look here too)

pmacs49 · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed 20/01/10, 17:24 »

live on a army camp 400 soldiers safe enough i think...

or a nemisis wheel lamp...

Nixy · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed 20/01/10, 17:24 »

Well first thing we will be doing when we buy ours is to fit a tracking device - I work for a company that uses these as part of the solutions we provide to the highways maintenance sector and for vehicle recovery they are worth their weight in gold - one of my clients had a brand new 60k cherry picker stolen and they recovered it within 30 minutes

Not so up on consumer devices but you can get some pretty good deals around.

Ours rely on being wired to the battery to pull power but will return a heartbeat (once every 24 hours) for about 4 weeks once disconnected - there are units with inbuilt batteries that you can get if you can't wire them to power but I'm not so up on them

scooper · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed 20/01/10, 18:13 »

I had the Toad Ai606 fitted by these guys http://www.secureacar.co.uk/

They came out to my house to fit it , just in the 60 mile radius

ob1 · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed 20/01/10, 19:05 »

Nixy do the trackers require a monthly fee to a tracker company?

Nixy · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu 21/01/10, 00:43 »

The ones we sell do but there are units that have a one off fee that mean you don't need to subscribe to a monthly service to access the software - you'll have to pay for a SIM though for the data transfer from the device. Sorry I dont know much about consumer devices

Birdy · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu 21/01/10, 22:14 »

A garage we deal with sell them. I spoke to them today to see if l could negotiate a discount if l can get 10 or more people. If anyone is interested let me know by private message or email.

marowak · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon 25/01/10, 13:43 »

birdy - i am interested ....

Birdy · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon 25/01/10, 17:34 »

Due to work madness today l wasn't able to get there tonight to discuss more with them.

Birdy · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed 27/01/10, 20:43 »

A few pointers what you are after is one that works on VHF and has a power drop sensor. I have been told that a motion sensor is not always reliable but l will find out how true this is, if when l go camping l find l am surrounded by police.

Nixy · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed 27/01/10, 21:14 »

http://www.trackstick-gps.co.uk/TramigoT22.php Something like this might do - its not a huge one off cost and then the only costs you'd incur are the SIM costs for when you're transfering data. I can't find any reviews for this particular model though. One thing, I'd always check about installation, it says it has an in built battery but doesn't say how long it would last - and in my experience you generally need to hard wire them - then you can forget about them until you need them, which is kinda the whole point.

I'll have an ask around and see if anyone is recommending any particular unit for domestic vehicles.

Birdy · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed 27/01/10, 21:47 »

We have a similar system fitted to a works van via the alarm where you can tell it to start, stop, alarm and ask where it is etc etc. But you need a sim and that is the catch. You need to find a very cheap sim card from a phone company and either pay a monthly subscription fee or top it up as a pay-as-you-go.

araon · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat 30/01/10, 12:01 »

I'm looking at maybe doing a groupbuy on

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20790&start=20

10 units,unit price is GBP63, total shipping cost is GBP85 by DHL. so £71.50
20 units ,unit price is GBP61,total shipping cost is GBP150 by DHL. so £68.50
30 units,unit price is GBP59,total shipping cost is GBP210 by DHL. so £66.00

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

yes its a GPS and yes you'll require some air sight but the reflected rf path is / should be good enough if shielded in steel containers or tunnels you'll have the same issue with VHF systems.... simple sim installation use your minimum by generating status messages when its not required.......

ob1 · « **Reply #13 on:** Sat 30/01/10, 12:37 »

Sounds good araon, my main concern is that as most will know in various areas of the uk you carn`t get a signal on your mobile, so will it only work as long as the stolen bus is within signal reception, second point is i have tried to use my phone from inside a steel container n from within industrial units n 9times outta 10 it don`t work, third point is if you had this fitted n the bus was stolen where would you stand with the police, would they want your phone to track it,would there equipment be compatible to the sim system? my final concern, is which system is approved by the insurance companies?
I know theres a serious difference in cost between this n the tracker at £730 for life, n believe me i dont wanna pay that amount but neither do i want to throw me hard earned money away as im trying to save for a lb sweatshirt! Im only asking as i know diddly squat about anything electronic

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araon · « **Reply #14 on:** Sat 30/01/10, 13:15 »

No system of tracker will work in a well sealed container your quite right the rf screening on them is akin to a faraday cage so once in its pretty much lost untill its reopened

yeah it wont work in poor reception areas for the GSM but on entering an area it registers with the nearest base station/s plus bear in mind it works off SMS and doesnt require the call to be placed and large data handovers so requires minimal signal strength and only requires the GSM portion on the event of unauthorised movement or status requests

the police will just require the co-ordinates of the vehicle stationary or in motion, it requires a sim card of its own or pay as you go contract, so you need to shop about for the lowest tariff if it requires activity to keep it alive then it just needs to send a status up date to your mobile.

Birdy · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun 31/01/10, 13:21 »

Meant to post this up sometime ago when l mentioned about what l did with my steering wheel lock. As they are pretty useless on the big thin rimmed wheels of our buses l use mine as a pedal lock. Stops the clutch and gas pedal being pressed. Won't stop it being stolen but will thwart the opportunist.

JenW · « **Reply #16 on:** Mon 01/02/10, 13:21 »

Hi Guys,

Besides a tracking device (which I'm not sure we could do straight away) what would be your essential security purchases?

Our van will be parked on the street in a quiet residential road. (Obv the usual guidelines about not leaving anything in plain view etc still hold true)...

We are going to get a cover from just kampers but I'm not sure if that will attract more or less attention!

Also - safety-wise - I know we need fire extinguisher, reflective triangle for breakdowns & a fire blanket but is there anything else obvious I'm missing?!

Thanks

JenW

marowak · « **Reply #17 on:** Mon 01/02/10, 13:45 »

Quote from: JenW on Mon 01/02/10, 13:21

Also - safety-wise - I know we need fire extinguisher, reflective triangle for breakdowns & a fire blanket but is there anything else obvious I'm missing?!

Thanks

JenW

you should get little reflective jackets too for the times you are broken down - needed mine 3 times this year ....

JenW · « **Reply #18 on:** Mon 01/02/10, 15:25 »

Hi,

Good point about the jacket - thanks!

What about steering locks etc - anything we should race out and buy before we collect the van in the next two weeks?

JenW

marowak · « **Reply #19 on:** Mon 01/02/10, 15:44 »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keep-Volkswagen-Alive-Step-step/dp/1566913101

i would personally recommend getting this book, when i got my van i did not know too much about all the in's and out's and it cost me dearly.

in terms of locks ... i want to find a wheel clamp that fits as there are A LOT of vans being stolen on tow trucks. I have a JK cover and I think its a good idea as they take a few mins to remove which would deter a thief. I think.

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